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    "Leadership is not an end in itself. It's what you do with it that counts." - Madeline Albright on Wesley Clark

    by stax on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 11:29:09 AM PST

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    •  You can't be serious. HELLO! FLAT TAX! (5+ / 0-)

      Mr. Gravel favors the flat tax ala Steve Forbes.

      If you thought Bush's policies were a giant giveaway to the wealthy, that ain't nothin' compared to FLAT TAX.

      Take the fight to them. Don't let them bring it to you. - Harry S. Truman

      by jgoodfri on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 11:41:39 AM PST

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      •  The Flat Tax is not all bad if you read up on it. (0+ / 0-)
      •  And I'm not saying Gravel is great (0+ / 0-)

        I mostly liked the McCain maverick-bashing.

        "Leadership is not an end in itself. It's what you do with it that counts." - Madeline Albright on Wesley Clark

        by stax on Sun Jan 14, 2007 at 03:09:27 PM PST

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      •  the Fair Tax is not the Flat Tax (0+ / 0-)

        Mike Gravel is not proposing anything to empower the rich. He wants to empower all citizens...that is the core of his campaign.  Mike Gravel supports the Fair Tax, a sales tax on all new goods. Not the Flat Tax!...Get rid of the IRS completely, give a monthly "pre-bate" to everyone to cover basic expenses, charge a 23% sales tax on all new goods, not used, new. Google Fair Tax to learn more.....Mike is not afraid of big issues...His biggest is to move us from futile, expensive, exhausting street protests to determining directly the policies by which we are governed, "that democracy of, by and for the people shall not perish." In what ways would you like to see America change? Do you feel qualified to vote on them?.....

        •  Wasteful spending and consumerism (0+ / 0-)

          Since used goods wouldn't be taxed, I think people would place much higher value on a lost art: repair.

          If new stuff weren't so cheap, maybe repairs wouldn't seem so expensive and we'd stop throwing so muh junk away.  Maybe we'd even insist our new stuff not break so quickly?

          The fair tax intrigues me.

          The FLAT tax, BTW, is VERY good.  How do we know?  When Republican Dick Armey proposed an 18% flat tax on income OVER 30,000, it got NOWHERE with his fellow Republicans.  To their horror, they discovered most of their base would pay MORE under a flat tax.  You notice we didn't hear much about it after Forbes?  They did the research and realized it mostly benefitted DEMOCRATS!  Sure their rate is 38%...but who's taking all the deductions for first and second home mortgages?  Who itemizes and offsets stock losses against their capital gains?  All that B.S. is GONE under a flat tax.  It wasn't the POOR who paid Senators and Congressmen to construct the tax code the way it is.

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