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  •  Rightwing vs Insane Rightwing (19+ / 0-)

    First, to the extent that Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are what they seem to be: great. Good for them. I just wish the Democrats and progressives had a better media machine.

    Second, to me, it looks as if, to some extent, the "success" of the rightwing media machine and the nature of its message has a lot to do with creepy secret flows of payola and creepy efforts to suppress voices on the liberal side. To the extent that that stuff is illegal and/or unethical and can, at least, be exposed, I would like it exposed. If that costs jobs, sobeit.

    Third, the talk show hosts at the center of the current controversy here have repeatedly, consistently been saying truly insane things while employed as talking heads for an arm of the Disney corporation. It doesn't sound to me as if Spocko is talking about the kinds of unfortunate slips of the tongue that can happen to anyone or the kind of stuff that Limbaugh would normally say. And Spocko wasn't using any mechanisms of government to shut them down. He was simply warning the advertisers what these people were actually saying. Then DISNEY was the one that used a mechanism of government (a lawsuit) to shut down Spocko's blog. If Disney is absolutist enough about freedom of expression to want the right to employ modern Nazis as talk show hosts, why isn't it allowing Spocko enough ability to make fair use of its programming to make his case?

    Fourth: I've often posted here that I believe that the rightwing hosts and networks and even political parties would, essentially, go dark if all the closeted progressives working for them walked away.

    If you or normal people you know are really making $10 an hour working in the media for genuinely awful people -- not simply conservatives, but people who repeatedly, intentionally say brutal, neofascist/plain old fascist things such as, "It's wonderful to think about what awful things will be happening to liberals now" or, "All liberals ought to be shot," or "Members of Congress who voted for bill X should be shot and killed on sight" -- wouldn't it be better to go work at McDonald's or go work at Wal-Mart? Or just go work for some normal conservative organization?

    I'm not thrilled with the Republican National Committee, for example, but it doesn't go around saying liberals should be shot. The governor of California is a Republican, and he seems to be a polite, upbeat guy. And, of course, there are all sorts of corporate organizations that support icky positions but aren't out there openly, aggressively promoting Fascism Lite. If you really have to sell your soul to feed the kids, why not just work for regular propagandists who say that global warming is good for the flowers, rather than creeps who go on air every day and call for progressives to be shot?

    Finally, I'm sure the defeat of Nazi Germany led to layoffs of many nice file clerks who were using their earnings from being filing clerks for the Nazis to support large broods of grandparents, children and grandchildren. But that kind of unemployment was an extremely necessary thing, and not particularly evil.

    To extent that KSFO is employing people to promote genuinely brutal, violent, neofascist or fascist views, any unemployment that results is a similarly extremely necessary thing.

    This is about Rwanda. We like to think that Rwanda can't happen here because we're rich North American people and Rwandans were poor African people. But Rwanda can happen here. The more extreme KSFO hosts might be saying what they say simply because it helps them get decent ratings and keep their jobs, but, if there's some way to use private means, rather than government censorship, to prevent people from laying the groundwork for an American Rwanda, or Yugoslavia disintegration, we ought to be doing that.

    And, if you Google me, you'll find that I repeatedly object here when I notice people saying particularly rude things about conservatives and Republicans. To the extent that any liberal talk show hosts are saying, repeatedly and sincerely, and not in an occasional stupid, tasteless remark, that Republicans and/or conservatives ought to be shot or otherwise physically mistreated, I object to that sort of thing just as much as I do if that sort of thing comes from the right.

    •  Thanks for mentioning Rwanda (0+ / 0-)

      This is a possibility people really resist, but the groundwork is laid every day with these violent, divisive shills. AND I THINK IT'S THEIR INTENION.

      Our own civil war war bloodier than any other war we've fought (I think bloodier than the rest combined), and I wonder if the rhetoric then was much worse than it is now.

      Our president already has no fears of Congress, the Constitution, the rule of law, or his critics. What do you think would happen if we tried to impeach and he said "This is all the work of anti-American liberals. Know any? Patriotic Americans, this is a call to you. Take out a liberal whenever possible." What do you think would happen then?

      The media shills would be the first in line to promote this travesty.

      The GOP IS Daffy: "It's mine, understand? Mine, all mine! Get back down there! Down down down! Go go go! Mine mine mine! Mwahahaha!" --Bill in ME

      by rhetoricus on Sun Jan 14, 2007 at 10:50:50 AM PST

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