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  •  Ask all the women who were raped? (0+ / 1-)
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    And never reported or prosecuted because - oh, there are so many reasons, most of them involve a social backlash comparable to what these poor boys are suffering.  They are actual victims.  These poor boys are victims all right - of their own decisions and actions!  

    Then there are all the men and women who report rapes and get all the social backlash and no justice.  Universities all over the country have stories of victims who were pressured into letting the institution 'deal with' the incident.  No charges, perhaps a nice private hearing before a board.

    No, I only hope that this can discourage other people from doing stupid and illegal shit.  Because it just might end up on the front page of the local newspaper, or the city newspaper or headlining at CNN and NPR.  Perhaps that wild party over at so-and-so's place won't look so good this time around.  Maybe someone will suddenly decide to catch a movie the night their frat brothers are doing something dodgy.

    The law says that you can get in trouble for just knowing that something illegal happened.  Which is to say that you can get into trouble for something you didn't do.  Hanging with the wrong crowd - it's not only a bad idea, it could take you down.

    We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us.

    by Fabian on Mon Jan 15, 2007 at 08:18:06 AM PST

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    •  The point is there is no evidence (2+ / 0-)
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      that this woman was raped none.

      The most that these men were guilty of is underage drinking.  How in the world does that make it alright to prosecute, ney, persecute them for rape?!

      So now you are against wild parties?  Perhaps just to be on the safe side we should all cover ourselves from head to toe and wear burqas.  Men and women.  You know, that way no one can accuse any one of anything.

      These men didn't do anything dodgy.  they hired a performer.  Yes, the performer was supposed to dance naked, but so what?!  They drank.  My G-d, call the national guard.  Again, no one is arguing that they shouldn't be punished for underage drinking.  What does that have to do with rape?!

      And why should these men suffer because other women who may have been raped don't report it?!  How is it any fault or business of their own.

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      Which is to say that you can get into trouble for something you didn't do.  Hanging with the wrong crowd - it's not only a bad idea, it could take you down.

      Are we living in Iran or North Korea now?  I thought that in this country you could only be "taken down" if the state proves that you are guilty of a crime.

      •  He's a Troll (1+ / 0-)
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        Or at least he is acting like one.  Logic and reason do not enter into his consciousness.

        The Truth about [ John McCain]

        by ChapiNation386 on Mon Jan 15, 2007 at 06:22:17 PM PST

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