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  •  You could argue he's already made a fresh (27+ / 0-)

    impression via this new career.

    Really, though, I saw Gore do an earlier version of his same talk here in 1992, and it was the same Gore. I think the country has finally caught up with him.

    But oh, the pain of six lost years on the climate issue ... 3000+ lives lost in Iraq ... the proliferation of junk science ...

    If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better for people coming behind you, and you don't ...you are wasting your time...R Clemente

    by Red State Rebel on Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 10:12:21 PM PST

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    •  The problem isn't that Gore is changed... (8+ / 0-)

      It's who the hell was running in 2000?  Seriously bad advice was given to him.  

      Don't like XOM and OPEC? What have YOU done to reduce your oil consumption? Hot air does NOT constitute a renewable resource!

      by Asak on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 02:54:23 AM PST

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      •  I saw him on Book TV (6+ / 0-)

        after the election of 2000 and he was engaging, witty,  and seemed at ease in his own skin.  My first response was WHY didn't I see THIS guy during the campaign?  

      •  you are a victim of the media (9+ / 0-)

        it's the same guy.  I saw him in person twice.  He was powerful and engaging. I suppose the myth that he is a new guy now is convenient to those who believed the media rather than their own lying eyes in 2000.

        •  I think you're partially right. (1+ / 0-)
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          He sure does seem a lot more comfortable in his own skin, though -- probably because he's so focused on an issue he's passionate about.

          If we abandon our ideals in the face of adversity and aggression, then those ideals were never really in our possession. - Cpt. Ian Fishback

          by Rick Oliver on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 07:07:44 AM PST

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        •  That's the real Al Gore, always has been (2+ / 0-)
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          I used to see him all the time when he was my Congressman. He was one of the first to have regularly scheduled town-meetings with constituents.  He was always informed, funny, warm, and engaging.  I tried to go see him whenever he was in town because it was always informative and fun.  I miss Al.

        •  It wasn't just a media perception (2+ / 0-)
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          that Al Gore chose Joe Lieberman as his running mate.  And it's not just an evolution of his political thinking that would make Gore never in a million years choose Lieberman again.

          To minimize criticism of Gore in 2000 as media victimhood is really to minimize an appreciation of Gore in 2007 for how much he's grown.

          There are few examples of successful adults who are open-minded enough to improve themselves in fundamental ways.  You don't do Gore a service by trying to whitewash his former mistakes.

          •  Correcting mistakes is one thing... (3+ / 0-)
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            But Lieberman selection then was another.  He (Lieberman, or at least our perception of him) is the one that changed on us.  The Iraq war issue really brings out the hidden Lieberman -- he did not seem so bad to most Democrats in 2000.  At least, I did not know of any issues in his past then that troubled me -- the issue of the Clinton/Monica speech on the floor of the Senate  seemed a minor vanity point then.  It now seems obvious that that was the true nature of the man: preachy, preening, perversely obstinate and petulant.  You can hardly blame Gore for seeing in Lieberman what most of us saw then.  Perhaps Gore was a little defensive, trying to innoculate himself away from Clinton's shame, but that is hardly a character flaw, given the media landscape then.

            •  All good points, (0+ / 0-)

              though I thought at the time that Lieberman's sanctimoniousness and prigishness were insufferable.

              The real point is this: while Gore apparently thought that the argument to choose Lieberman was convincing, and I think mostly because he was feeling defensive about being associated with Clinton, I don't believe that Gore today would allow such defensiveness to have such an important role in his decision making.  I think his sense of urgency would be the dominant factor, which is why he now presents himself with so much more self-confidence and creativity.  He's a much stronger public figure today, both shielding him from attacks and making him respond to them better.

              It's not just media perception, or hindsight.

    •  Not to mention damage to our Constitution (1+ / 0-)
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      Heck, yes, I want my country back. Gee, I'd love to see Al run.

      "Control of the initiative is control of the battle. In the alley, at the poker table or in politics. One must raise." David Mamet

      by coral on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 06:47:05 AM PST

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