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  •  Actually, Gore is afraid to meet his critics. (0+ / 0-)

    You write:

    Gore is not afraid to face the skeptics, the ranks of whom he said are dwindling faster than glaciers.

    And before I'm flamed and troll rated, here's the instance. I have a house right next to the littoral, and it's going to be flooded if Gore is right, so who am I most willing to listen to? However, Gore has shunned discussing this with people who are knowledgeable on the scientific facts, but who have chosen another interpretation.

    Bjørn Lomborg was to meet with Al Gore recently in Denmark, in connection with the premiere showing of AIT there. Lomborg is vociferous in his criticism of the remedies proposed against Global Warming, stating these means and measures should be put to other use.

    The journalist Flemming Rose was to interview the two of them for the influential Jyllands-Posten newspaper. After first having accepted the interview months in advance, and stating that meeting Lomborg would be great, Gore declined to meet with Lomborg the day before. Gore agreed to being interviewed by the journalist.
    An hour later, the journalist was told Gore wouldn't meet with him either.

    Lomborg and Rose have an op-ed in the WSJ titled: Will Al Gore melt? - if not, why did he chicken out on an interview.

    Extract: He (Gore) considers Antarctica the canary in the mine, but again doesn't tell the full story. He presents pictures from the 2% of Antarctica that is dramatically warming and ignores the 98% that has largely cooled over the past 35 years. The U.N. panel estimates that Antarctica will actually increase its snow mass this century. Similarly, Mr. Gore points to shrinking sea ice in the Northern Hemisphere, but don't mention that sea ice in the Southern Hemisphere is increasing. Shouldn't we hear those facts?

    "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

    by SteinL on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 02:27:11 AM PST

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    •  Do you care to look up Bjørn Lomborg? (3+ / 0-)
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      Ed in Montana, philinmaine, raines

      Take a look at his Wikipedia page.  It's not good.  And here's a link I found on Antarctic cooling

    •  When I saw Gore last year (5+ / 0-)

      He told us afterward that he had just given the presentation to Grover Norquist's group. He seems to appreciate both the opportunity and the challenge that it offered.

    •  Why doesn't Lomborg agree to (8+ / 0-)

      be interviewed with a panel of his peers? Gore knows better than to enter a hijacked forum that will be controlled in a manner to discredit any semblence of truth. The numbers Lomborg is quoting have been totally discredited by the scientist who published them because they were taken out of context. Lomberg's argument is the same as those who point to a snowstorm in New Mexico and say that's proof there's no warming. Why should Gore debate an idiot? How many Lomborg publications would pass muster in a peer reviewed journal? Answer: none.

      "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

      by java4every1 on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 06:23:35 AM PST

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    •  maybe Gore has better things (9+ / 0-)

      to do that meet with people who only want to have nonsense arguments.  

    •  Gore is educating the public (3+ / 0-)
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      racerx, A Siegel, creeper

      He is not a scientist and doesn't claim to be one.  It would be foolish for him to enter into a debate about the precise consequences of climate change.

      The key point is that the risks of climate change are huge.  He may exaggerate the scientific consensus about the precise effects of climate change but deserves a bit of rhetoric license.  There can be no certainty about the future, but I'm certain we need to do something to stop/reverse climate change and I sure as heck want more people to agree with me.  Go Al!

      The climate is changing -- Draft Al Gore for President in 2008.

      by Neighbor2 on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 06:37:17 AM PST

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    •  Jyllands-Posten? (3+ / 0-)
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      A Siegel, la urracca, spiraltn

      Isn't that the right-wing rag which thought it would be fun to stir up Muslims by printing the Mohammed cartoons? Sounds to me that these two were trying to ambush him and he was quite right not to take them up on it. I'm sure Gore would be happy to debate his critics, in front of a more balanced arbiter.

    •  that is a seriously funny article you link (4+ / 0-)
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      racerx, sj, A Siegel, 0wn

      the very next sentence kind of discredits everything you have to say, but here it is, from your link above

      Mr. Gore talks about how the higher temperatures of global warming kill people. He specifically mentions how the European heat wave of 2003 killed 35,000. But he entirely leaves out how global warming also means less cold and saves lives. Moreover, the avoided cold deaths far outweigh the number of heat deaths. For the U.K. it is estimated that 2,000 more will die from global warming. But at the same time 20,000 fewer will die of cold. Why does Mr. Gore tell only one side of the story?

      it's hard to imagine this people are serious or that serious adults would publish this.

      global warming is happening but it's going to be ok because the winters will be nice?

      are people on the right really this ignornant?

      •  ahahahaha (2+ / 0-)
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        racerx, 0wn

        this article comes complete with literal caricature of gore and all!

        and when i saw the date... BAWHAHAHHHA

        In the year 2100, Mr. Gore will have left the average person 30% poorer

        there's a factual and well verified piece of data if i have ever seen one.  baahahah

        •  Yes, and wouldn't it have been nice if ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... Gore had gone in and demolished them, then?

          Now they get to attack him, both in the European press and in Jylland-Posten.

          As I've written above, I don't agree with Lomborg, but Gore came off looking weak because he pulled out of an interview that was scheduled months in advance.

          "I don't do quagmires, and my boss doesn't do nuance."

          by SteinL on Tue Jan 23, 2007 at 02:10:36 PM PST

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