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  •  Barack Obama's candidacy (3+ / 0-)

    is a test for the AA electorate and the US as a whole. He is a test for the AA electorate in that his generation beyond the boundaries of traditional Black leadership (the AA church and the 60s Civil Rights clique) speaks to the possibility of, for lack of a better term, the professionalization of Black political leadership. He possibly represents a new generation of leadership that understands the traditional foci of AA political leadership yet has a broader view that allows for solutions to vexing problems that are not mired in the regressive and repetitive baggage of the 1960s. I respect his attempt to frame the older Democratic contenders as still fighting 40 year old battles. Ultimately I will support the best Democratic candidate but I will give him as fair a hearing as all the others.

    There is room for all at the rendesvouz of victory

    by Sansouci on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 08:59:48 PM PST

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    •  i hear that (0+ / 0-)

      vernon jordan set him up for the senate, earliest fundraiser and entrée to the clinton machine which, in turn, had to be (this i don't know for sure) the impulse behind his '04 keynote.

      i still can't help worry about the "frame" which is uncomfortably close to smug BCTH sel-determination. i'm not surprised if bookended middle-class AAs are hanging like you.

      Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

      by MarketTrustee on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 09:59:28 PM PST

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      •  The frame/spin that worries me (1+ / 0-)
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        are the media reports that there is tension between Obama and old school Civil Rights leaders. I don't know how much of that is spin or, if true, jealousy on the part of "The Preachers." Perhaps they have their long standing political alliances to consider. To paraphrase The Godfather I the Clintons walk around with AA leaders in their pockets like so many nickles and dimes. Political alliances or otherwise, if this "tension" gets legs than that will become a good way to turn many AA voters off from even taking a considered look at Obama's candidacy.
        But on the other hand, many AAs I have spoken to consider Al Sharpton an embarrassment, not because of his oratory or political positions, many appreciate his willingness to state a plain truth about race and class in the US, but its his hairstyle that wigs people out (pun definitely intended). Perhaps those same voters will see Obama as serious, sober and a dramatically different representative of the community. And let's be honest whether Obama wants that designation or not, he will be saddled with it. His movement through mainstream political corridors is both good and bad. Good in that it quickens his access to the levers of power beyond influence and bad in that one may ask to what degree he may be allowed to speak in his voice and also at crunch time will his AA leadership bonafides (organic connection to the AA community) be questioned. He is still negotiating the white/Kenyan ancestry non issue. To give him credit in the Fall of 2003 when called out by blackcommentator.com on the DLC listing him as an up and comer he quickly moved to have his name removed from that list. Harold Ford, well we know about Harold Ford . . .

        There is room for all at the rendesvouz of victory

        by Sansouci on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 10:25:16 PM PST

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        •  I'm not AA but... (1+ / 0-)
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          I worry less about older AA's in congress fighting "40 year old battles" and more about who is going to replace them when they're gone. An important thing to keep in mind is that people like Rangel and Conyers fight and someone has to do that. When we had election problems in Cleveland and couldn't get anyone to pay attention, Conyers came out here, took testimony and published a comprehensive report. Obama worries me. He's seems to be so busy triangulating and being a conciliator, getting everyone to "play nice" that I'm afraid he won't fight when it's necessary. But then, I'm "older," too, so maybe I'm partial to the old guys.

          The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

          by Psyche on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 10:55:31 PM PST

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        •  lol. shrine of the head. (1+ / 0-)
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          just passing through

          sharpton has had a new do for some time. peeps don't need to flip channels just so quick ...

          anyways, i'm with you on obama. but it wouldn't have killed him or us to wait another 4. seriously. clintonistas will turn on him, and HRC will lose anyway.

          Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

          by MarketTrustee on Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 11:02:19 PM PST

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