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  •  I Agree with Part of What You Say (0+ / 0-)

    And vehemently disagree with other parts.

    The largest part involves the differences between the experience of Caribbean and African black folks and native born folks.  Have you ever considered that the reason for the differing success is because these immigrant populations do not have the history of white racist oppression here, and therefore are "preferred" (the same way that illegal immigrants are preferred) because their personal narratives give white folks an emotional out? Whites can't handle the legitimate anger that 450 years of oppression has left in much of the native born population, so they reward those who superficially look the same for not having it and being willing to play the game at the expense of those who are still owed by this country -- even a lousy apology that the white majority refuses to make.  That immigrant black folks for the most part (IME) happily sign onto this system and are willing to express disdain for and look down upon native born blacks who paved the way for their immigrant success in part by being  unwilling to forget or forgive without genuine acknowledgement by America of its wrongs against Black folks is just depressing evidence of how in the end, money talks, bullshit walks and color is only skin deep.

    It's something for you to consider.

    On the other hand, I agree with you that we are at the place where there can be no more excuses (even as we must NEVER forget the explanations).  But we differ about why:  I believe it is because we are out of time, those of us who claim to love our people.  We have to solve problems, right now.  And that's why I am all for just ignoring these other folks and, if they want our votes, they can come bargain for them the same way as they do with every other cohesive voting bloc in this country.

    My separate place for mental meanderings: Political Sapphire

    by shanikka on Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 06:33:42 AM PST

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    •  Really agreed with this (0+ / 0-)

      Whites can't handle the legitimate anger that 450 years of oppression has left in much of the native born population, so they reward those who superficially look the same for not having it and being willing to play the game at the expense of those who are still owed by this country -- even a lousy apology that the white majority refuses to make.  

      Tis true.

      While I believe reparations is a losing fight that must be fought, it says something about White folks that they won't even APOLOGIZE FOR SLAVERY.

      Just an apology.

      That immigrant black folks for the most part (IME) happily sign onto this system and are willing to express disdain for and look down upon native born blacks who paved the way for their immigrant success in part by being  unwilling to forget or forgive without genuine acknowledgement by America of its wrongs against Black folks is just depressing evidence of how in the end, money talks, bullshit walks and color is only skin deep.

      This is spot on.

      The Carribbeans, Africans, as well as every other Immigrant Group of color, can only

      GO TO SCHOOL
      GET LOANS
      GET IN CORPORATE AMERICA

      Because us lowly American Black folk put our literal LIVES ON THE LINE during the Civil Rights Movement.

      Period.

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