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  •  Every big defense contractor gives to Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    It proves nothing.

    There were reasons given to the end of the testing. The tests failed.

    •  Science, dear one... (2+ / 0-)
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      Dburn, occams hatchet

      You cannot legitimately fail a test that you do not complete.

      I am given a 100-question exam by my teacher.  If I pass the exam, I will beat out the teacher's daughter for a prestigious scholarship.  

      After I have completed 30 answers (luckily for me, correctly), my exam and answer sheet are taken from me.  My teacher tells my parents that I "failed" the exam, because I only correctly answered 30 out of 100 questions.

      Does this resemble a level playing field?
      Is this a fair test of my ability?
      Are the results accurate in any sense of the word?

      Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -- Salvor Hardin

      by TexasAMC on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 08:44:24 PM PST

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    •  The tests were rigged (2+ / 0-)
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      occams hatchet, Habitat Vic

      That's why they failed. No independent observation. But word leaks out that level 4 rounds were fired repeatedly until it failed and then it was proclaimed unfit while the contract holder with billions at at stake for not only body armor but vehicle armors product was not put through the same test.

      It would have hard time passing a lower threat level 3 round much less multiple level 4 rounds ( armor piercing)

      Again, when you people post shit where lives are at stake, you better be prepared with links  including test protocols, individuals present at tests, rounds fired at test, conditions of test and most importantly has the current contract holder been subjected to the same tests.

      If you can't , then don't post, not when kids are dying wearing that crap. If you are posting that despite all of that, then I smell money

      Facts are at

      Including all the tests where Dragon Skin passed the level 3 Tests by the Justice dept in PDF and links to the Justice dept. It's strange that the army /armor holdings and others won't subject their armor to an independent test lab with Dragon Skin. They can and should design the protocols. But with as much corruption as there is in the system, they shouldn't be let anywhere near the place where the results are written up.

      But no, that won't happen not as long as the proper people have been paid. Apparently they are back posting here too.

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      by Dburn on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 08:48:22 PM PST

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    •  Well, you just proved your ignorance. (1+ / 0-)
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      Clem Yeobright

      Not every big defense contractor gives to Republicans - not even one of the biggest suppliers to the Interceptor program, Ceradyne, which supplied the ceramic SAPI and ESAPI plates.

      You might want to actually do some research next time. You could do worse than to read my previous diaries on the subject, including all the links. I did.

      As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. - Justice William O. Douglas

      by occams hatchet on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 09:38:16 PM PST

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