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  •  Let's look at this screed point by point (6+ / 0-)
    1.  I hate America for the near-extermination and subsequent oppression of its indigenous population.

    Given the fact that most of the extermination happened long before "America" came to be, perhaps you can direct your complaints to Spain and UK.  (And maybe France for good measure).  Also, if you are intent on blaming the present-day country, perhaps you can extend your feelings to Canada, and other North and South American countries.  Just a thought.

    1.  I hate it for its role in the African slave trade and for dropping atomic bombs on civilians.

    Again, perhaps you should address your complaints to the UK.  And also to the African countries whose chiefs willingly participated in the slave trade.  As for atomic bombs, perhaps you could split the hate and aportion at least a part of it to Japan who refused to surrender and insisted on killing as many soldiers as possible.

    1.  I hate its control of institutions like the United Nations, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, and World Trade Organization.

    Of course, without US these organizations would not exist at all, but why let that stop you.  I wonder how you feel about the fact that US is the major donor to the UN funding anywhere between 20 and 30% of its budget?  If itis asked to contribute that much, is it notr reasonable to expect that it will exert influence accordingly?

    1.  I hate it for propping up brutal dictators like Suharto, Pinochet, Duvalier, Hussein, Marcos, and the Shah of Iran.

    I see.  So what's US to do.  Propping up dictators - bad.  Toppling them - bad.  Sanctions - bad.  Ignoring them (and the plight of their people) - bad.  In your world, how is US to win?

    1.  I hate America for its unconditional support for Israel.

    See above.  Support Israel - bad.  Support its neighbors - also bad, because they are all brutal dictators.

    1.  I hate its bogus two-party system, its one-size-fits-all culture, and its income gap.

    Start a different party.  You hate not the system but the fact that you are simply unable to convince others.  Well, sorry, that's your problem.  "One-size-fits-all culture?"  Really?  have you ever been to say, New York City?  

    1.  I hate America for being a hypocritical white supremacist capitalist patriarchy.

    White Supremacist?  you gotta be kidding me!  In a country where a black man has a real shot of becoming President?  What other country has elected a racial minority to an important position, pray tell?  As for capitalist, you are of course always welcome to move to say Cuba or Venezuela where everything is much more "equal," that is if the government favors you.  Do that and then give us a report on how you like the "non-capitalist" society.

    •  Point 7. (1+ / 0-)
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      skrekk

      Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia (I think). Really now, let's not go overboard either way. I would expect that the diarist hates the rest of the world as well as the US; generally when folks vent this way, there's still a whole lot left behind. But there's little point in venting over the rest of the world --- you don't speak their language.

      Nigeria is often at the point of civil unrest because minorities get into high office. Fiji has had a number of coups because the Indian minority has gotten the prime-ministership. Really, our current racism isn't so monstrous compared to the rest of the world, but we ain't no shining light either. I wouldn't be congratulating ourselves on the fact that Obama has a shot.

      Germany has a female in charge. England had Thatcher. France has Segolene, who has a better shot at the top than Obama. So I guess the diarist is right about the patriarch bit? ;)

    •  USA and the UN (0+ / 0-)

      I wonder how you feel about the fact that US is the major donor to the UN funding anywhere between 20 and 30% of its budget?  If itis asked to contribute that much, is it notr reasonable to expect that it will exert influence accordingly?

      Oh, poor USA, having to pay so much for so little influence!

      Actually, I think the USA gets a fairly good deal. It gains significant economic benefit from hosting the UN headquarters, and the 22% dues ceiling (compared to the USA's 30% of world GDP) means it pays a lower per-GDP dues than many other wealthy nations. On top of all that, the supposed funding is largely theoretical since the USA owes more than a billion dollars in arrears, with no reduction in sight. And whatever US money is spent towards the UN seems to be mostly aimed at making sure no UN project ever results in the purchase of a single condom.

    •  Good Rebuttal (1+ / 0-)
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      Except as noted by someone else for point 7.

      Would add to point 2: Ask those who were at Iwo Jima and were slated for the invasion of Japan how they felt about the bombs. My friends dad, 5th Mar Div on Iwo, said he felt the bombs saved his life. Didn't feel he'd be lucky enough to survive that hell twice. Some estimations I've seen are that a million Japanese were saved by Truman's decision.

      But of course I am sure the author of this diary would probably blame America for starting the war in the first place by enacting sanctions against Japan for their slaughter in China and expansion in Indochina.

      Two possible slogans for the author to adopt:
      America; not perfect, but the best thing going.
      America; please excuse the mess, remodeling to begin January 20, 2009

      Humanity will truly advance when all religion is finally seen as the mythology it is.

      by Boisepoet on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 11:46:15 AM PST

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      •  I read a book on the invasion plans (0+ / 0-)

        for mainland japan.

        We were expecting a MILLION allied casualties.  Japan was training women and children and old people to stab allied soldiers with bamboo sticks.  sounds kookie, but these are the same people who's women and children jumped off cliffs rather than surrender.

        Sorry, sometimes you have to choose between us and them.  Both my grandfathers' and my stepgrandfather's lives were probably saved by dropping the bombs.  I'm ok with that trade.

        You do what you have to.  

        "Don't pray for an easier life... pray to be a stronger person." - on the wall in the Rakkasan Gym.

        by Captain Infidel on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 12:50:38 PM PST

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        •  I considered putting that in my post... (0+ / 0-)

          but figured American casualties wouldn't matter to the diary writer.  

          Humanity will truly advance when all religion is finally seen as the mythology it is.

          by Boisepoet on Sat Feb 10, 2007 at 03:14:09 PM PST

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