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  •  How Did You Feel ... (1+ / 0-)
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    peace voter

    ... when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced, almost immediately after the election, that the Democrats would take cutting funding for the war off the table?  Did that make you feel confident that your party leadership respected the will of the voters?  Did that make the Democratic Party look good?  Did that give Independents a reason to switch and become Democrats?

    •  Ms. Wingograd, in all honesty, (0+ / 0-)

      I agree with Pelosi. Defunding the war hurts the troops and frankly I don't want our warfighters to go without the necessary equipment and support that they need. Cutting off funding basically gives the Republicans the opening to blame the Democrats for "not supporing the troops". It will only further solidify the impression among many voters that the Democrats "hate the military" and so forth.

      I want this war to be resolved as soon as possible. I'm also realistic enough to understand that, unfortunately, significant change won't happen until the next adminstration takes over.

      Defunding the war basically lets the Republicans take control and will hurt the Democrats. The far left never ceases to amaze me. Instead of focusing on the Republicans, which is the opposition, they attack Democrats for failing their impossible and unrealistic litmus tess. For DC related travel advice, please visit that link.

      by jiacinto on Sun Feb 11, 2007 at 06:19:12 PM PST

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      •  I think it's more than legitimate (1+ / 0-)
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        to ask what happens between now and when a 'new administration takes over'.

        Do you actually expect any change in admin/repub intransigence w/o defunding as an option on the table?

        Even with it?

        Do you think the political resolve presently exists to actively dissuade an Iranian strike?

        'Not supporting our troops','hate the military', and, IMO, 'far left' are repub memes-Nov. victories would not have occurred if they were anything else.

        And I don't believe direct action is an attack.
        I believe it's democracy.

      •  As I say below, don't buy into that Rethug b.s. (0+ / 0-)

        The war can be carefully defunded to avoid the actual reality of not "supporting the troops", and the Rethugs know it.  They have been the ones responsible for supply shortages (and contractor corruption), and Bush can spend the withdrawal money in such a way, or Congress can direct him to do so, to avoid that claim and reality.  In fact, if that argument was bought by enough people, we could never withdraw because we could never avoid that argument, and thus never direct moneys to be used to get out.

        (And BTW, nice misspell jobs on Ms. Winograd's name)

        "The true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love."

        by Budlawman on Sun Feb 11, 2007 at 08:02:45 PM PST

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      •  Hostages to Bush policy (3+ / 0-)

        If you say defunding if off the table because of supporting the troops, you're essentially allowing Bush to hold our troops hostage to his policy and indefinitely extend the occupation. When every last excuse for staying in Iraq is gone, will we still stay because Bush is dangling the troops as hostages?

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