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  •  Racial Side Shows Are All We'll Get If Senator (1+ / 0-)
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    Obama,followed your Jackie Robinson suggestion.  Why would the Senator even consider playing such a role?  Frankly, the suggestion is quite disturbing.

    •  I was around back then (1+ / 0-)
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      and I live in the hood where that kind of shit happens on a daily basis. I've taken that kind of racism from a lot of people in my life. What do you think you can do that we have not done in hundreds of years? We don't get mad anymore. We expect it. We try to face those so-called racial sideshows with dignity and strength. If you think Jackie Robinson did not excel and succeed with that kind of dignity and strength, then you have that right to be disturbed at every twist and turn the next 18 months. I guess you are going to be one disturbed person for a long time.

      •  Those Sideshows Destroyed Black Institutions, (0+ / 0-)

        businesses, Negro League Baseball, and Jackie Robinson himself.  We must not let them separate Senator Obama from the Black Community.

        •  what? (0+ / 0-)

          Man, that comment has me scratching my head.

          In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

          by yet another liberal on Sun Feb 11, 2007 at 08:04:29 PM PST

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          •  We don’t have to follow that model anymore. (1+ / 0-)
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            I’m sure most people think Jackie Robinson integrated Baseball due to racial equality. The more important Jackie Robinson saga lies in the business of Baseball, however.  Negro League Baseball grew to rival Major League Baseball, and Negro League Players were proving themselves superior to White Players.  

            In a business deal, they Took The Most Marketable Player, (Jackie Robinson), the one they thought could withstand all the withering racism they knew was to come, and subjected him to daily public humiliation. It is public knowldge that it left him deeply affected. Moreover,in the end, The Negro League itself was eliminated, along with Negro League Parks, which affects community and related concessions and affillitated businesses and relationships.  

            We don’t have to follow that model anymore.  If they need us they are going to have to take the whole League, this time.

        •  Where do you get those facts? (1+ / 0-)
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          Are you trying to say Jackie Robinson destroyed himself? I don't know how old you are, but you have no idea what Jackie was if you make a comment like that. Those businesses were not destroyed by articles written by newspaper reporters who wrote subliminally, they were destroyed by bigots who fire-bombed and lynched people out of their homes and businesses. Who is "We" when you write not to let them separate Senator Obama from the black community. One thing to keep in mind, and I support Obama. Don't make the mistake of thinking African Americans are of one mind or will just support someone who is African American. Obama has to earn that privilege. It is not a birthright.

          •  Umm Lots Of My Facts Come From Google! (0+ / 0-)


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            Lanctot offers a rich array of facts that history lovers can feast on. We learn that in the late 1930s it was the Communist Party and its fine newspaper, the Daily Worker, that led the drive to integrate baseball. White owners, nearly all political conservatives, were one with Clark Griffith, boss man of the Washington Senators, who said that blacks were a "tool" of the communists. As for access to the white leagues, Griffith said that "the nigras themselves didn't want it."

            The rest of the story is common knowledge, but with a footnote. In April 1947, Jackie Robinson came to the Brooklyn Dodgers, followed in July by Larry Doby to Cleveland, and Dodger Dan Bankhead, the big leagues' first black pitcher. While these three had to deal with white racism on the field and on road trips, a group that Lanctot calls "the black elite" and "black bourgeoisie" was worried that the emoting and enthusiasm of unruly working-class and poor black fans in the stands would reflect badly on the whole community.

            Integration ended the Negro leagues. As sterling a historian as he is, Lanctot might have added one more chapter as an update: the current and continuing decline in numbers of black big leaguers, the low appeal of baseball among blacks in high school and college compared with football and basketball, the absence of black fathers to play catch with their children. Much of this was reported in the July 7, 2003, edition of Sports Illustrated by Tom Verducci, who asked the same question that was raised nearly a century ago, and is ably analyzed by Neil Lanctot: Does the black ballplayer have a future?

            Reviewed by Colman McCarthy

            Copyright 2004, The Washington Post Co. All Rights Reserved.

            •  My last point will be, many think the Negro (0+ / 0-)

              League only changed their name after Jackie Robinson. Check out who the minority race in the NFL and NBA is. Yes, you are right, Google trumps experience living in those times.

              •  We Is We! And Now, Where Do You Get Your Facts? (0+ / 0-)
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                  Are you the African American community? You are going to tell me who I should feel bonded to because he happens to be half African? I get my facts from life and knowing athletes and business people for 71 years of my life. I don't have to read Google to know who Jackie Robinson, Bill Russell, Marion Motley and Jim Brown were. Not one of them played to the bigots like you want Obama to. I do know that if it was not for Jackie Robinson, Willy Mays, Henry Aaron and Frank Robinson would have never had the opportunities they did. I don't need to read Google to know that.

                  •  It Was Just A Suggestion Sir! (0+ / 0-)

                    But this Is Sad!  Why Don’t You Just Do A Limbaugh, and call Senator Obama a Halfrican?   And, why would you want him divided from the Black community?

                    You started this by recommending that Senator Obama play Jackie Robinson, to avoid what you termed "Racial Sideshows."  I gave you facts as to how your suggestion would lead to exactly what you said you wanted to avoid - racial sideshows.  

                    Senator Obama is a fabulous candidate for President – Good Night!

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