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  •  nor is this article (19+ / 0-)

    nor is this article that bad.

    Whoever wrote uppity is of course an idiot and worse, and hopefully he or she is being relieved of duties at Salon as of this moment.  But that's not the point of the article at all, nor was it written by the author.

    In the end, the point made is that Obama IS high-minded.  McLellan says that didn't work well in a race for Congress against an incumbent who was going to stake out ground as 'more black' than Barack.  Anti-intellectualism isn't an inherently black issue -- as we've all seen with our preznit who is constantly trying to show he's a bigger bumblef**k than the Democrats.  But to pretend it's not an issue in the black community, or that it wasn't an issue in Barack's first race, is just silly.

    He was not a humble guy.  And I can say this as someone who helped and contributed to ALL of his campaigns, going all the way back to the first Senate.  Remember that when he took on Rep. Rush, he hadn't EVER WON ANY CONTESTED ELECTION AT ALL.  He knocked his mentor off the primary ballot in a petition challenge to get the Senate seat, in a district with no effective GOP.  That was the basis for his race against an incumbent Congressman.  A lot of people saw promise in Barack back then, but there's no question that he hadn't developed the skill to overcome what Rush threw at him.

    The article quite pointedly DOES NOT say what Miss Laura says, that he did better when he embraced his white side.  Instead, it says something quite different -- that he seemed more natural when he embraced the totality of his background and let that speak.  And, when he learned a bit of humility.  

    This is not a negative article.  It seems so only if you have far thinner skin that Barack does.  People need to grow up.

    •  Yay for you! (13+ / 0-)

      This article is nothing like the description of it in this post.  Its theme is that Obama learned from his experiences and grew as a person and politician.  He won over the skeptical author, and the author describes how he won over other people too.

      It's not good that this article was so misinterpreted.  It's even worse that people were willing to castigate Salon based on the front-page story w/o looking at the original article.

    •  I agree entirely (6+ / 0-)

      I find that all too often posters on dKos tend to be amazingly selective in the quotes they select as representative of a given viewpoint.  It's almost, dare I say, as if we actively enjoy getting angry at the rest of the world and the opinions they express, and don't bother to balance the perspectives as a whole against the tasty morsels that so readily inflame us.  

      If anger is perhaps too strong a term, certainly we do enjoy our "uppity" .... sorry ... "smug" condescensions to all those perspectives which diverge from the precisely crafted message we have bouncing around in our heads.  Is this just a tad juvenile to anyone else, or is it the simple and necessary expression of what goes on in an activist's mind?

      •  It's the editorial presentation by Salon (0+ / 0-)

        NOT the carefully parsed contents of the article that are at issue. Few, even of the posters here, are taking in the whole article. Many visitors to Salon are not going to click past the blurbs and the advert links, so the message that Salon is putting out is the one about Obama being suspect as "uppity" or "smug." If they wanted to highlight the contents of the article as growth, it would have been along the lines of "Obama overcomes youth," or whatever show he is not now that callow youth.

        Think about the misleading tabloid headlines, versus what is actually in the articles and you will get an idea as to why Salon needs to be called to account on this.

    •  Macho types do not appear arrogant (0+ / 0-)

      because they have already established their status through social signaling. On the other hand, people like Obama (and perhaps Gore, and many other good people) are quite confident in themselves, about their knowledge and everything, but they "forget" to send enough dominant signals. At some time, they even avoid dominant signaling, out of a certain standard of humility. But in human/primate societies, confidence without macho signaling easily appears like arrogance. I am glad for Obama if he solved problems like that for himself.

    •  Agree As Well (3+ / 0-)
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      countrycat, mihan, Capybara

      Seems to be a repeating theme in political bios where a candidate grows out of a electoral defeat. This story will not lose him any votes.

      I like Salon. I've linked to many of their articles over the years that have helped make an argument. Some editor had a clueless moment in the extreme by using the word "uppity" in the description. Glad it was focused on here and glad it was corrected quickly.

    •  'uppity' (3+ / 0-)
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      AlphaLiberal, mrd in nyc, sima

      The funny part about this cry of racism is that I'd be 99% certain that the reason the writer wrote 'uppity' is because that's the word that was used by the South Side african-Americans to describe Obama.  

      Of course, the one thing the Bland Obama myth machine wants to crush right now is any indication that he's not just the darling of the african-American community.  The fact that his Congressional constitutients viewed him as this phony outsider who came into the their district and tried to pretend he understood their problems just can't be mentioned.

      So, everyone scream racism loudly and in unision with your fingers plugged firmly in your ears until these people who are trying to tell you something you don't want to hear go away.

      Gawd, this is going to be a sick campaign.  Anyone who says anything that doesn't suck up to Hillary is going to be called sexist, and anyone who says anything that doesn't suck up to Bland Obama is going to be called racist.  

      Yep, this is going to be an informative debate on the Democratic side that helps the American citizenry learn about the issues facing the country.

      Racist, no sexist, no racist, no sexist, no racist ....  please, wake me up when its over and you've lost yet another election.

      "I will not vote for or support any candidate for Congress or President who does not support a speedy end to the war in Iraq." -votersforpeace.org

      by COBear on Mon Feb 12, 2007 at 07:00:39 AM PST

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      •  Well put / Count me an Obama critic (0+ / 0-)

        Well said.

        As we have so many people here unwilling to cast a critical gaze toward Obama, I will sharpen my criticism and critiques of him.

        You know why? Because shielding candidates from all criticism makes them weaker candidates, not stronger. And we need tough, hardened candidates, not those who must be pampered and coddled and protected from criticism.

        Obama is not use to fighting, and seems to think he can step over all that. No way. It won't be so. He needs to prove he cand stand up for himself, then maybe he will stand up for us.

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