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  •  I strongly disagree (0+ / 0-)

    "The House of Representatives could easily fashion a bill that halts any funding for the war on March 1, 2008."

    At the rate American troops are being killed that would be about 1,200 more, not to mention the maimed.

    If it is a good idea to do it by March 1, 2008, then it is a much better idea to do it by September 1, 2007, probably earlier. Do not forget that congress can "earmark" funding too.

    If you do not support cutting the funding ASAP, then you do not support the troops.

    •  Well, this is where we get into the details... (1+ / 0-)
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      txlosthorn

      I am advocating that we cut the funding immediately.  But it must be effective at some point in the future.  Because the troops there now need food and fuel and fresh water and ammunition.  And I don't believe there is any way to conduct an immediate pullout without causing an apocalyptic (okay, maybe that's a little dramatic) conflagration.  A safe pullout of 150,000 troops would probably take close to a year, maybe a little longer, maybe a little shorter.

      •  The troops got there in 3 weeks from Kuwait (1+ / 0-)
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        truong son traveler

        without "googling" it, I think there were about 150,000 troops then. I do not see why it would take more than a few months to pull back to Kuwait, and then home from there over another few months.

        •  Yes, but (4+ / 0-)
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          gogol, Mafuti, txlosthorn, Bikemom

          it took 3 1/2 months for them to get from the U.S. to Kuwait.  And when we crossed the border, we were still short another 20,000 troops from the 4th Infantry Division who ended up arriving late.  It took 3 1/2 months then, and that was without being entrenched in a civil war with multiple warring sides.  I'll give you another example: The Bush administration would love to put the 21,000 surge troops immediately into Baghdad.  But they know they are constrained by a variety of factors, and have instead decided to do it over the course of 5-6 months.  Large-scale troop movements are complicated and often dangerous.  If we pulled out immediately, chaos would ensue--looting, anarchy, and war.  Much of that could be prevented by a deliberate and ordered withdrawal.  To use some Army lingo, we should instead move in a "careful hurry."

          •  However fast or slow our pull out is (0+ / 0-)

            chaos will ensue in Iraq. Sectarian war is already going on in spades.

            They main constraint with Bush's surge is the low availability of troops, in fact part of the "surge" is being done by extending tours.

            Large scale troop movements are not THAT complicated and dangerous and again they could stage via Kuwait. Once in Kuwait then things could slow down. Some might stage through Kurdistan possibly. In fact doing it slowly would quite possibly be more dangerous.

            Six more American troops were killed today. At that rate 180/month. The clock is ticking.

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