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  •  228 Freepers on this site? (1+ / 0-)
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    It looks by the no vote that we have Free
    Republic maniacs visiting kosland.
    Pull the plug on this operation.  Pull it yesterday.

    Stop wasting my tax dollars and someone else's son or daughter for a bald faced lie.

    "In a system of immense power, small differences can translate into large outcomes." Chomsky

    by formernadervoter on Wed Feb 14, 2007 at 05:51:38 PM PST

    •  No, I'm NOT a Freeper (5+ / 0-)

      (chech UID and history) - so let me explain my vote.

      First, I fucking don't want to give these bastards ANY cover.  And if the Dems vote to cut funding, WITHOUT having first prepared the way politically, in about three weeks Karl Rove will have the public convinced that we were winning the war until those cowardly Dems chickened out.  

      Think it can't be done?  Remember the 2004 election, when the media spent weeks trashing the military record of the highly decorated Vietnam War Volunteer - and ignoring the record of the AWOL-In Chief.  

      I can't tell you how many people I had considered fairy well-informed told me  there was "something fishy" about Kerry's service. Orwell never envisioned anyone as Orwellian as these guys - or as good at it.

      And I don't want John McCain to get  elected, and start a whole BUNCH of lunatic wars.   I want to drive a stake through the heart of this administration's deceitful war - and prevent all such FUTURE wars.

      So  I voted no because I didn't see the option I wanted - the "Murtha Plan".  I can't remeber where I read this today - been reading a lot - but Murtha and Pelosi have a strategy.  

      First, when the funding bill comes up next week, Murtha will say sure, we'll give you the money PROVIDED that every troop you send to Iraq has sufficient training, an up-armored Humvee, body armor, night scopes, etc,  and hasn't already been extended twice, etc - conditions that the Pentagon can't meet.

      THEN Murtha will investigate the supply problems of the troops already in Iraq, and introduce a bill that says since the administration won't supply our troops with what they need, we won't fund your war.

      SO I wanted to vote "Yes, but let Murtha soften them up a little bit first, and maneuver them into a chokehold, before we vote to de-fund."

      That wasn't an option, though - so I voted No.  When  what I meant was "Yes, But. "

      •  This is a good plan. (0+ / 0-)


      •  Here's the Murtha Plan Details (3+ / 0-)

        From today's WaPo

        key paragraphs:

        The Murtha plan, based on existing military guidelines, includes a stipulation that Army troops who have already served in Iraq must be granted two years at home before an additional deployment, Marines must be given 14 months at home, and any troops sent to Iraq must be those deemed fully trained and equipped under existing military standards. The idea is to slowly choke off the war by stopping the deployment of troops from units that have been badly degraded by four years of combat.

        "They won't be able to deploy troops unless they extend troops overseas. And if we limit the extension, then it'll be very difficult for them to continue this surge, which the American people are against and the Iraqis don't want," Murtha said yesterday on National Public Radio.

        The Democrats also intend to shut down the military prisons at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and at Abu Ghraib near Baghdad by denying them funds, and to bar funds that would be used to establish permanent military bases in Iraq.

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