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  •  Absolute nonsense (0+ / 0-)

    Which is the exact reason why your arguement will fail. A lot. You display an almost uncanny lack of knowledge of how the film industry actually works.

    Film A is released into the theatres. It has a budget of 100 million dollars. It has a marketing cost of another 40 million dollars. It has hard cost for prints, shipping, customs, and other costs of 10 million.

    Bringing the total cost of Film A to 150 million dollars. It has a theatrical run of 6 weeks, netting a total gross of a 150 million dollars.

    Now, 25 cents of every dollar is kept by the movie theatres. The profit sharing by the producers, actors, writers, directors, and crew members comes to another 25 cents on the dollars. (Of their take, 25 cents of every dollars goes towards lawyers, agents, and managers).

    Already, 50 cents of every dollar is gone. Meaning, that while the gross take for the film is 150 million dollars, it has actually only earned 75 million dollars.

    The film is released on DVD. And, in its first DVD run, it earns a gross of 40 million dollars. One fourth of that goes towards profit sharing. So, it only takes in 30 million dollars, leaving it still 45 million dollars in the red.

    That's 45 million dollars that needs to be made during television presentations around the world, and subsequent dvd releases (Including difference formats)

    Often times, it takes 20 years for the original investors to make their money back on a film.

    And what's so bad about an unauthorized remake 28 years later? It's stealing. Benchly wrote the novel, created the characters. Created the scenario. JAWS belongs to him.

    What you're advocating is the redistribution of wealth through copyright infringement. If someone has a burning desire to make a movie, why don't they create their own damn work instead of stealing from others?

    As for insurance, the unions negotiate with the Studios for insurance and pension plans. It's not just first run. You need to earn X number of dollars every year to qualify. 20 years down the road, those residuals ensure that the actual union members still qualify for their insurance.

    More importantly, you're under the false impression that people lucky enough to work in the film and television industry are instantly millionaires. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The vast majority of these guys are carpenters, and gaffers, and electrical guys. Tradesmen, making 15 to 20 bucks an hour. Their long term insurance, 30 years down the line, is soley dependent on copyrights - and the idea that a studio will continue to make money on a film, long after its been made.

    Long term residuals pay for insurance. It's a fact. Frankly, it's frightening that you've lost the forest in the trees, because your plan will negatively impact thousands of people.

    I hope you're ignored as a fool.

    Baby, you're the kind of gal, who makes a guy wanna dig his own grave...and lick the shovel clean.

    by harrylimelives on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 10:59:17 AM PST

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    •  No he want be (0+ / 0-)

      unfortunately there are a lot of peo like him running around online. when I tried in earnest to discuss the issue with Stoller over at mydd, he said that I was bogging the discussion down with legalese. Apparently you can have a discussion of copyright law without understanding the law or the business outcomes to real people.

    •  The revenue curve for movies is a lot more steep (0+ / 0-)

      than you suggest.

      The fact that Hollywood has devised a bad way to pay for insurance has nothing to do with it.

      I certainly don't think that the film and television industry makes instant millionaires.  But, the hourly guys, by and large, are simply getting paid by the hour.  They are getting ordinary income out of copyrights.

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire

      by ohwilleke on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 02:26:19 PM PST

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      •  The once again (0+ / 0-)

        You don't know a helluva lot about the industry.

        Which is nice though, considering that you have no problem putting people out of work, and forcing them to lose their coverage, just so you can get a free copy of that fucking Bee Gees album you've had your eye on for so long.

        Baby, you're the kind of gal, who makes a guy wanna dig his own grave...and lick the shovel clean.

        by harrylimelives on Fri Feb 16, 2007 at 08:28:23 PM PST

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