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  •  it's not a question of good-cop/bad-cop (0+ / 0-)

    here, where your Jordan & Thomas metaphors seem to resonate.

    Rather, the Gibbs thing seems to resonate in hypocrisy, or perhaps an unwillingness to change the system after all.

    Now, if Obama were to say

    "I need a guy like Gibbs because I can't do anything if I don't get elected; I don't endorse all of his prior work, especially not as it related to the Dean ads; I'm in charge of this campaign and I've laid down the law about the kind of campaign I want to run; and Gibbs' is going to be good firepower against the GOP smear machine."

    that would be a good thing.  But for now, I'm not lovin' it.  Color me waiting for Gore and ready to lift for Edwards.

    Loyalty comes from love of good government, not fear of a bad one. Justice Hugo Black.

    by Pondite on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 12:37:32 PM PST

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    •  It's kind of a Catch 22 (1+ / 0-)
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      because you can't change the discursive system without being in a position of power (i.e. being elected), and you can't get elected in an election that's gate-kept by the current mainstream media using their usual frames unless you conform to the rules of the current system... where your electoral viability doesn't have anything to do with espousing the best policies but with your ability to punch back against opponents and side-step the horseshit obstacles that are plopped on the ground in front of you in the horse-race.

      And while I'd love to see Obama say exactly what you said in your blockquote, unfortunately trying to build your campaign around clearly explaining how the game is rigged instead of actually trying to be the best at playing the existing electoral game... well, ask Ralph Nader how that worked out for him.

      •  i don't disagree (0+ / 0-)

        I think your general point is well taken.  Of course, my block quote is an idealistic shorthand.

        That said, we should all be wary of a false dichotomy.  There is a spectrum of campaign discourse, and using sufficient negative firepower to get elected is not the same thing as being willing to use any weapon at all (e.g., Gibbs' anti-Dean ad, or the Chris Lehane anti-Dean stuff).  So while it's not per se hypocritical for Obama to use Gibbs, it's essential for him implicitly to draw the line somewhere if he wants to maintain the high ground on this issue.

        Loyalty comes from love of good government, not fear of a bad one. Justice Hugo Black.

        by Pondite on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 03:20:31 PM PST

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