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  •  This is excellent! (1+ / 0-)
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    gfunkster

    Get this message out.   This guy is a major failure.
    Dinkins should have beat him, btw.

    You want more 9/11s?   Elect this guy, Rudy.

    "In a system of immense power, small differences can translate into large outcomes." Chomsky

    by formernadervoter on Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 09:50:30 AM PST

    •  jujitsu (11+ / 0-)

      Go after his perceived strength which in reality is his biggest weakness.

      The other stuff (3 marriages, etc...) is just there as backdrop.  Attack Rudy for his 9/11 failures and he'll sink faster than a stone.

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      Kevvboy, wyvern

      Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but even if you think Rudy was a 9/11 failure, there's no way in the world you're going to convince America of it.   It just ain't happening.  

      Most Americans and most New Yorkers not only think he did a great job, they FEEL he did a great job.  It's an emotional thing, and no amount of cerebral argument is going to change that.  

      And as far as this goes:

      "Rudy Giuliani is so unpopular in New York that he couldn't be elected dogcatcher"

      I've seen this thrown out time and time again, and yet -- I'm still waiting for actual polling evidence that shows this, as opposed to anecdotal "I'm from New York so I must be right" assertions.

      By 9/10, a lot of New Yorkers were tired of Rudy, and thought he was unnecessarily abrasive, but any claims that he was wildly unpopular are simply not backed up by the polls.  Generally, he was in the 40s -- not super, but frankly not bad after 8 years, especially considering 90% of the voters were not from his party. And, more importantly for 2008, he is VERY popular today in NY, and even loved.

      I say all this as someone who very much wants to see a Democrat elected in 2008.   But closing our eyes to Rudy's obvious strengths is not the way to do that.  

      Rudy has weaknesses, and if he's the GOP nominee we must go after them -- but 9/11 ain't one of them.  

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