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    thing is we don't need corn syrup in our products. Other sweeteners would work and may be healthier.  The whole corn syrup craze was little more than creating a product to keep corn farmers in business.

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    by pissedpatriot on Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 07:32:01 AM PST

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    •  The power of the corn lobbyists (3+ / 0-)

      The corn lobby for YEARS has blocked the import of cane sugar, in partnership with the domestic sugar market. Those barriers are coming down now in large part due to the ethanol boom.  

      So part of the reason corn sweetners are so prominent is because the corn growers and domestic sugar growers kept sugar prices high and corn sweetners prices low.

      (Of course we could all do with less sweetner in our diet, period, but if corn goes to ethenol, we might see more cane sugar being used in sweet stuff.)

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      by JanetT in MD on Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 10:27:00 AM PST

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      •  So does ethanol mean (0+ / 0-)

        we'll start to get genuine sugar in our products again?  As in I can eat more junk food without that nasty aftertaste?

      •  Silver lining (2+ / 0-)
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        the import tariffs on foreign sugar have has a good side effect ,which is that they have made it possible for cane production not to be encouraged further in Brasil - as such production directly lerads to rainforest being cut down, maybe it's not such a bad thing...

      •  Don't get me started on sugar (1+ / 0-)
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        cuz their lobbyists sure ain't sweet.

        As head of U.S. Sugar Corp. (see Rober Coker), J. Nelson Fairbanks led the industry’s $24 million 1996 lobby effort that defeated a proposed penny-a-pound tax on Florida sugar producers to clean up the Everglades. "This is a real victory for the citizens of Florida," said Fairbanks, sugar-coating the truth at the industry’s victory party. "It’s a victory for the environment and the constitution." The money for what was the most expensive political campaign in state history came from Fairbanks’ U.S. Sugar, the Sugar Cane Growers Co-op and Flo-Sun (see Jose Fanjul and Wayne Berman). The Florida sugar industry owes its very existence to corporate welfare, since the federal Army Corps of Engineers drained much of its land. The industry employs an army of lobbyists to ensure its price subsidies and to protect a ban on Cuban sugar imports. Florida Governor Bush Jeb Bush signed legislation into law in 2003 to delay a planned cleanup of the Everglades by as much as 10 years. A major part of the cleanup is to clamp down on phosphorous runoff from sugar farms. To prevent increased competition from imports, the U.S. sugar lobby stalled Bush administration trade-agreement negotiations with Austrailia and Central America in 2003 and 2004. "If all we do is continue to grant access to the U.S. market, you are going to kill the American sugar producer," Bush Pioneer and U.S. Sugar lobbyist Robert Coker said of the trade talks.

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        by jillian on Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 08:27:21 PM PST

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