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  •  I don't oppose Unions per se (0+ / 0-)

    but politics as usual.

    My very limited experience with unions meant that I couldn't take a very nice job without joining one. The dues would have eaten up the income increase, and of course the union had a politics section.

    I think that if you wish to join a union you may. Period. They can negotiate on your behalf and you are a happy guy. If you don't wish to join then you can negotiate solely on your own behalf with the employer. And you are a happy guy.

    The above is philosophy, the reality is that there is no good answer.

    Phil

    Every day you ask a question, you save a brain cell. What you choose to do with that brain cell is another matter.

    by pegwinn2 on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 04:05:22 PM PST

    •  there is a good answer (1+ / 0-)
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      PaulVA

      its the system that makes the options seem unfair.  Without the general existence of unions, your salary would be much much lower at any job, let alone just at that one job, even after the union dues.

      The salary may have been the same after the dues were paid, but now you have physical and political power within the work place that you did not have before.

      So the next time you and your coworkers think you deserve a raise, your success would be much more likely.

      Wages and dues are just the tip of the union iceberg, the benefits go far beyond that and aren't always measurable in statistics and numbers....how do you measure respect?

      What you are vaguely referring to is so called "right-to-work" philosophy which has proven disastrous for unions and workers.  Can anybody help me out on comparisons to workers rights and benefits in right-to-work states? thanks!

      Annui Coeptis: Novus Ordo Seclorum

      by CapitolDragoon on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 07:32:19 PM PST

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      •  There was a time (0+ / 0-)

        when unions were invaluable. That time has passed I think.

        Since the majority of Americans work for small business why do I need a union? I negotiate directly with the owner.

        Since you asked about right-to-work I googled it and highlighted Texas Law.

        Based on a quick reading I see nothing disastrous except maybe for the unions themselves or perhaps for the union bosses in Texas.

        I'm not trying to be combative at all. I have never belonged to a union and only brushed against the one I described above. So if you can enlighten me, I would appreciate it.

        Phil

        Every day you ask a question, you save a brain cell. What you choose to do with that brain cell is another matter.

        by pegwinn2 on Thu Mar 01, 2007 at 08:25:19 PM PST

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