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  •  Blaise said (5+ / 0-)

    My church's prohibition on secret societies emerged from the unfortunate corollary between certain churches and the Klan, and I generally approve of this prohibition.

     

    I hope it is appropriate to ask: What church is it you are referring to?

    •  Southern Baptist (3+ / 0-)
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      Most evangelical churches in the South now have this in their bylaws, to keep the Klan out.

      People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

      by BlaiseP on Sun Mar 11, 2007 at 06:07:34 PM PDT

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      •  Pensees... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...with your kos handle, I would have figured Catholic, for sure :)

        There's a tinfoil hat factory?  What are they hiding?

        I think secret societies are just one more way for small groups to encourage cohesion.  And, for the whackier among us (of whom I am not one, at least in that regard) a way to give a backstory to an incomprensibly cruel society.

        •  I am a rare bird in Protestant circles (2+ / 0-)
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          ... one who has no quarrel with Catholicism.  I also attend, (and largely lead) a Bible study group at a Catholic church.  Protestants and Catholics of good will are finding the old shibboleths and historical enmity is all very silly, we worship the same God and serve the same poor.  Catholics trump us in their service to the poor.  Christ never uttered a word in condemnation of any faith except the hypocrisy in his own, and I will follow his good example.  Neither do I have any quarrel with any man's faith, honestly held, I shall not judge:  God will judge.

          Secrecy is the flip side of privacy, and is protected (or in these parlous times, attacked) by the right to free association.  As progressives, we ought to explicate some coherent policy on this issue.  The PATRIOT Act is roundly attacked in our own echo chamber, but I believe it to be the most sinister attack on our rights since the Alien and Sedition Act.

          I tried to deconstruct this argument along the lines of the specious fearfulness surrounding the secret societies.  The more I examined the issue, the better I liked it:  the same rubbishy arguments against various secret societies are the same now used against Muslims.

          People are usually more convinced by reasons they discovered themselves than by those found by others.

          by BlaiseP on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 05:14:49 AM PDT

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