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  •  There is an easy way to resolve this. (23+ / 0-)

    Start at the bottom and supoena the aides. The press will be hanging on every word. Continue working your way up by investigating everybody and everything mentioned.

    Meanwhile the 21 Republican Senators up for re-election this class will be getting a little antsy.

    Bush can hang tough and refuse to answer supoenas. Then he comes across as in contempt of the peoples representatives and thereby We the people.

    Do that and the writing on the wall is for the Republicans to become a permanent minority party.

    The Republicans in the house will move to impeach Bush in self defense.

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 05:35:28 PM PDT

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    •  I totally agree with that strategy (3+ / 0-)
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      but it is not easy nor is it expeditious. bushco will just try to ride the clock out and I am afraid that is there plan.

      This is the time to call them out and proceed with subpoenas & then contempt of congress charges and take this to the SCOTUS.

      It's a gamble on both sides. Who is going to flinch first. The GOP is in terrible shape with their candidate selection for the General Election in 08 and I just can't see them anteing up on this and giving Hilary or Obama or Edwards unitary executive power. It would result in their ruin and they know it.

      •  Independent Counsel revival (6+ / 0-)

        use the failure to respond to revive independent counsel statutes, which will be able to be used in other settings too and will allow for post-2008 follow through on criminal matters, plus free up Congress for some of the many other oversight issues.

        Let Congress be reasonable and appoint, for example, an ultraconservative Republican like Bruce Fein to investigate the wiretap program.

        •  This sounds very reasonable. Is it do-able? (3+ / 0-)
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          I like the idea of an Independent Counsel. But can Congress overcome the backlash from Kenneth Starr's excesses to reinstate?  Maybe so if the present circumstances work to revive its appeal. Especially if both sides of the aisle can see it as the means to re-assert the power of Congress. One can only hope.

          In 1492 Native Americans discovered Columbus lost at sea.

          by Bugsby on Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 06:54:03 PM PDT

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      •  Just don't let them say this is political (3+ / 0-)
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        The right-wing noise machine will be hammering away on this like a non-stop jack-hammer. They'll say that the left is hijacking America in a time of war just to settle political scores.

        BANK on that coming, if it hasn't already started tonight, and be ready to point out that if the executive has nothing to hide, then they should be happy to testify under oath. And that the Congress is only being as political or non-political as the US attorney firings were to begin with.

    •  good riddance... (2+ / 0-)
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      I like that strategy, but what should we do in the long run?  I don't think we should doubt that the Republicans will have numerous ways of spinning any Democratic attempts to compel subpoenas.  I think we need to establish a permanent, enforceable culture of political honesty.

      •  Make a law (3+ / 0-)
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        Make it against the law for any government employee, especially elected, to intentionally mislead (lie to) the American people.  What is the purpose of them having Rove testify but not under oath and no transcript?  Its to allow them to turn around and tell the American people anything they want, and have nothing available to contradict them in the way of testimony.  Nothing to use against them in a politcal war (the only real power right now that hurts them since they control enforcement).  They get to say they complied with Congress and also that they did nothing wrong.  What was it, I saw on some show today about Bush explaining away why he answered a question by a reporter about Snow or Rumsfeld not having given resignation when in fact he had.  It was apparently a week before the election and right afterwards we find out it was all untrue, Bush knew about it and later was asked why he had answered one way and this week the answer is different.  His answer to that was that it was the only way to get the reporter to move on to the next question without causing a political stir just prior to the election.  It should be about answering the people (he can say no comment but otherwise what comes out of his mouth should be truthful).  He answered the question one way for political reasons when he knew the truth was something completely different.  The same is true, in my opinion, about the runup to the war.  Lies, knowingly, told about uranium and Nigeria, biological weapons trucks, meetings in Prague, etc etc.  All things used as propaganda to take us to war.  All lies told to the American people.  They sell fear through lies and there is nothing to stop them and its their biggest weapon.  It shouldn't be allowed (granted they are the enforcers).  Make a law that no one could possibly vote No on.  Call it the the Americans Deserve the Truth law...whatever.  That way when they lie and do it publicly and get caught there is something to use against them other than Congressional investigations.  Fabricating global warming documents, altering "memos" from the Border Patrol, all of it would fall under the simple choice of telling the plain truth or not.  Either keep your mouth shut or speak the plain truth.  If the American people could count on that a lot of the crap we have endured throughout our history would not have happened.  Who enforces?  I don't know, a group of elected prosecutors mixed with some appointed by Congress and some by the President.  Waiting two, four, six years for elections to dump some lieing piece of crap is just too long.  The people need more than simple democracy to fix things.  Its too easy to start a war that gets thousands killed in the mean time.

        Terrorists win by bleeding us dry...of our finances. Stop being scared.

        by jrflorida on Tue Mar 20, 2007 at 08:04:09 PM PDT

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    •  I Encourage Bush to Dig in His Heels and Fight. (3+ / 0-)
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      With his already crippled, dishonored and disrespected Presidency in shambles, if Bush creates a Constitutional crisis and refuses Congressional subpoenas, his Republican Party's chances in '08 (and for several elections) as well as his legacy will be destroyed.  Bush has the anti-Midas touch... everything he touches turns to shit.  I welcome yet another of "the Decider's" decisions.  Bring it on, Georgie Boy!

      •  Right now, people on Bush's staff (2+ / 0-)
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        are whispering, "It's over. We're toast. Now the truly desparate are turning truly crazy."

        Or, as Hunter Thompson once wrote, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Too bad the bastard isn't alive to see all of this happen.

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