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  •  Thank you. (3+ / 0-)
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    rserven, carolita, CanadianBill

    I have my paranoid moments where I wonder if my boss is letting me work my ass off for now, quietly laughing when I'm not looking because she knows I've already shot my chances at tenure all to hell.

    I'm not good at keeping shut up, though.  I'm determined to find a way through this career path with integrity.

    I appreciate your words of encouragement.  I'm also thrilled to learn that anyone in your city is participating on dkos.  I feel like some kind of aberrant super-lefty even here, and we're downright librul compared to your corner.  I wish you well.

    •  Nah, not if she has any sense at all (3+ / 0-)
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      rserven, CanadianBill, mamamedusa

      If you don't make tenure, it is a failure on her part as well. Most Universities have a significant investment in young faculty that they can only recoup if you stay there and are productive for a decade or so.

      One of the reasons the PT process looks like it does is they are trying to wring as much out of you as they can up front. As you may have noticed, in most departments the full prof/full tenure part of the faculty bifurcates.Some continue to grow their research and productivity, while others seem to start slowing gradually and in a few years they have become part of the furniture.

      If they can get 12 years worth of productivity out of you in the 6 years it takes you to get tenure, they will get their money back in the long run, no matter which road you take. So be of good cheer. Unless you are really dealing with a sick situation (or an idiot -- always a possibility), you're just feeling the stress of the process.

      And if you want to see a liberal abandoned in the conservative wilderness, drive about an hour south of gp39m to that big old land-grant institution on the hill. You'll be up to your eyeballs in WalMart country, but I'll thrilled to see another Kossack.

      John McCain supports torture and escalation of the war on Iraq.

      by carolita on Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 12:18:54 PM PDT

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      •  I'll second that (4+ / 0-)

        When I started out here, the University, the College, and the department were still very much an old boy's club run by guys who had gotten tenured and promoted for showing up for class and not screwing their students (or at least not getting caught). My senior colleagues actively resented us mid 1980s hires because our frenetic efforts to publish our way to promotion and tenure made them look like a pack of slackjawed idiots. Which, in fact, some of them were. Sad to say, two or three of them are still hanging on to this day. And still throwing monkey wrenches into the career paths of tenure-track faculty who don't meet their stereotypical paradigm of a good junior faculty member.

        My saddest duty as Personnel Committee Chair was presiding over the unfavorable third-year review and ultimate termination of a tenure-track Spanish colleague who was 1) female and 2) incapable of kissing ass. Not that this junior colleague was herself blameless: she was more than a touch indolent and I suspect that she just folded her tent early on. But the handful of us who fought for her were no match for the senior Spanish faculty: two of whom are fluent Spanish  speakers who have never published anything in 75+ total service; the other (who married a tenured full professor after being here FOUR MONTHS) managed to publish four crappy little blurbs but can't speak Spanish to save her soul. They bitched and whined and another potentially good colleague was driven out in the cold. I just hate this kind of bullshit.

        But who grants absolution
        For sins that never were committed?

        by gp39m on Sat Mar 24, 2007 at 01:11:10 PM PDT

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