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  •  By the songwriter himself. (1+ / 0-)
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    Even he found it no longer amusing. He wrote a new song to replace it and took all references of "rape" out of the book.

    You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. --Albert Einstein

    by Sharoney on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 01:17:48 PM PDT

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    •  in a way, i'm sorry he took it out. (1+ / 0-)
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      this was a song that came into play as women were fighting for their own sexual recognition and rights - it was very appropriate for the time - it was meant to say one thing and MEAN quite another.

      if pressure made him remove it - it is unfortunate - for pressure had not made society deal with the underlying message he was stating.

      again, this made people VERY uncomfortable as they heard the "beautiful" singing voice of jerry orbach (the original el guyo) and the gorgeous melody and the horrific words.

      this is almost like cleaning up marat/sade.  would really change the meaning if either is "sanitized".

      (as you can tell, i'm old enough to be around for the original production - and at carolina, this was the first play we did my first year as a playmaker)

      soon as i got arthritis, most of my caps ran away from home! those that remain, huddle together in fear!

      by edrie on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 05:40:35 PM PDT

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      •  No pressure involved. (0+ / 0-)

        In an interview on NPR, he said that once he actually saw it staged and realized how it might come across he had never been comfortable with the term in the song, and that he saw the revival production as an opportunity to set things right.

        The straight-play original by Edmond Rostand, "The Romancers," or "The Romantics," used the term "abduction" in the most popular English translation, and he said that the word "rape," while easier to rhyme and scan, added a whole layer of meaning he really hadn't intended.

        You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. --Albert Einstein

        by Sharoney on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 08:09:52 PM PDT

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        •  ah, thanks for the clarification. (1+ / 0-)
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          at the time it was done, there also was a different "awareness" of sexuality... not necessarily a good one... but in context of the day - it worked in a bizarre way.  "romance" was ALWAYS defined as a woman saying no but meaning yes because GOOD girls didn't SAY yes.

          soon as i got arthritis, most of my caps ran away from home! those that remain, huddle together in fear!

          by edrie on Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 08:38:56 PM PDT

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