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  •  56% of Americans say they won't support Hillary (12+ / 0-)

    Ever. . . under any circumstances.

    Read the Harris polls numbers at:

    The Upshot?  That Hillary can't win the election.

    And she's leading in the money race. . . .

    AND THAT'S a problem - for the Democratic Party.

    •  That poll is all adults (9+ / 0-)

      Her "Likely Voters" numbers, IIRC, are still not great (somewhere around 45%), but not prohibitively bad.  And a poll of likely voters means a lot more than Harris' poll of all adults.

      "'Shit' is the tofu of cursing" --David Sedaris

      by LiberalVirginian on Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:21:43 PM PDT

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      •  Not at this point (3+ / 0-)
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        At this point in the campaign few independent pollsters use any kind of 'likely voter' screen.

        Pollster usually don't switch to a 'likely voter' screen - until Labor Day of the Election Year.

        One reason is that there is no univeral one-size-fits-all "likely voter" screens out there.

        The likely voter screens vary all over the place, and vary from campaign to campaign and year to year.

        I can see why the Hillary people would want to gin up some 'likely voter' screen.

        Everybody else is looking at a 50% "absolutely not, never, no" number.

        But a 40%+ "Absolutely NOT" number is usually considered death for a candidate at this stage.

        She's DOA in the General Election.  Period.

    •  Of course she can win (3+ / 0-)
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      She has been running a smart, hard-working campaign all along, and her fundraising numbers show it.  The Clintons are the best thing that's happened to the Democratic party during this generation, and they deserve an encore.

      People First // Hillary Clinton for President

      by Timothy McIntyre on Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:38:15 PM PDT

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      •  You mean like an aristocracy? (8+ / 0-)

        Of course, it should be a family thing... or an inherited thing like George Bush and his idiot son Dubyah.

        •  The Clintons do not lose campaigns (3+ / 0-)
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          Ever since Bill Clinton left office, American presidential politics has been a wasteland of bad candidates, dumb campaign strategy, and bad decisions all around, by both parties.  How could the Dems lose not once, but TWICE, to George Bush, one of the easiest candidates to defeat?

          The country's been through too much these past 8 years to take another chance on a non-Clinton candidate.  It's time to return to smart politics.

          People First // Hillary Clinton for President

          by Timothy McIntyre on Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:50:07 PM PDT

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          •  In that case why bother (0+ / 0-)

            If this country is no longer capable of scraping up more than one presidential candidate who isn't bad and doesn't have a dumb campaign strategy, then it's a lost cause anyway.

            The Senate is the last bastion of white supremacy. --Andrew Gumbel

            by Free Spirit on Mon Apr 02, 2007 at 12:12:23 AM PDT

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          •  Thank Bill for getting caught (2+ / 0-)
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            You can thank Bill for getting caught with Monica for 2000 aayway. It's a shame, but it's done. Certainly, I'm not morally judging him, that was his business. Politically though, it was just inexcusable.

          •  Unfortunately Bill is Not Running (2+ / 0-)

            As much as Hillary supporters would like it to be true; Bill isn't running for President and it is too much of a stretch for the electorate to think so. In fact; if Hillary's team try to insinuate with Bill 'you get two for one' it could very well backfire.

            The problem with Hillary is she is not likeable and her 'legal parsing' of many issues even when she should be speaking from her heart contributes to the perception of not being likeable.

            Anybody Democratic is a good candidate for President when compared to the Repubs but Hillary has a tough road to go, even with all her money. I am not saying she won't be a formidable force but her money doesn't guarantee her the nomination, particularly since Obama and Edwards have enough to be competitive.

            The way the primaries are stacked; it is entirely possible we could go into the convention either with an overall winner determined by the first primary dates-very well could be Edwards if his wife responds well to treatment or we could go into the convention with the same three candidates but none of them having a majority to get the nomination. Wouldnt that be ironic and exciting.

            As far as the election goes-Edwards is a much more electable candidate than Hillary as he is likeable and from the South and is able to speak emotionally without worrying about how he is interpreted which unfortunately Hillary does worry about too much.

          •  Can't the Democrats do better than two people (2+ / 0-)
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            from the same family as their nominee?

            Yes, Bill's two terms were OK, not great (see NAFTA, welfare reform); however, that was then, this is now. I'd like to see someone else besides them in the White House.

            Is Jeb going to be Bush 45?

      •  pardon me if I disagree completely with you nt (1+ / 0-)
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        Think you've seen all the liberal T-shirts? Think again - there's more!

        by OrangeClouds115 on Sun Apr 01, 2007 at 10:48:40 PM PDT

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      •  I really doubt she can ever win--- (4+ / 0-)

        Only speak from personal experience, and I don't hate Hillary---just her war vote----when I know for sure she knew what was up---anyhoo---I have always defended her in the past.  But she is the person whose name gets mentioned the most with "I would never vote for her."---among my friends and acquaintances.  And it doesn't seem that people have solid reasons---they just have a visceral reaction against her.  There is just something about her public persona that is unattractive to people.  I have great fear that if she were the nominee she would never win the election for the Dems.

        •  Me too, I would never vote for Hillary (1+ / 0-)
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          I would stay home and not vote at all if HRC wins the nomination.  The 1984 ad on the net could not have expressed my feelings more accurately.

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