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  •  So is 9-11 a conspiracy? (2+ / 0-)
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    stonemason, greenearth

    Did WTC 7 magically fall into its own footprint?

    "If you are the Diarist, then where are your sources?" Sources? I don't have to show you any stinking sources."

    by PlanetTreasures on Tue Apr 10, 2007 at 01:49:13 PM PDT

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    •  You do raise an interesting question... (4+ / 0-)

      perhaps it was David Copperfield or more likely that commie-pinko-looking Doug Henning who planned 9/11. It's just speculation I guess; what is for sure is that the Patriot Act wasn't concieved, written, and passed in six weeks (I recalled it being three in my above comment but it was actually passed on Oct 24th and 25th).

    •  oever did 9/11 would be a conspiracy (1+ / 0-)
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      by definition. the only question is who dunnit, and how, and why.

      personally, i don't think we have enough info to say for sure in any direction. i would certainly like to see a thorough investigation not compromised by the fascists, though.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Tue Apr 10, 2007 at 05:26:03 PM PDT

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    •  silverstein (2+ / 0-)
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      PlanetTreasures, Demena

      later said they decided to "pull it" (meaning controlled demolition).  No tinfoil needed for this, google anywhere.

      What's crap is that I've read a good deal about controlled demolition and also observed the same in person, and it is a fantastically complicated procedure.  It takes many weeks, usually months, depending on what needs to get done.

      Which leaves us with the ungainly question, Mr. Silverstein, as to why you were busy doing that preparation weeks in advance of that fateful day, not letting your employees or the fire departments or anyone else know what you were doing...

      Sorry.  It's not a theory.  He's admitted destroying the building on TV in front of all Heaven and earth.  Not theory, but fact.

      "Stonemason" has nothing to do with "Freemasonry." We build architecture with stone.

      by stonemason on Tue Apr 10, 2007 at 06:52:17 PM PDT

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      •  Is there an intereview with the person (0+ / 0-)

        to whom Silverstein had said "Pull it"?

        As for the World Trade Towers there are remarkable occurences of unexplained explosions. The explosions heard newr the bottom of the towers, and explosions going off simultaneously on at least two sides of the building. Coincidence?

        "If you are the Diarist, then where are your sources?" Sources? I don't have to show you any stinking sources."

        by PlanetTreasures on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 06:51:44 AM PDT

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        •  here is a link (0+ / 0-)

          that I have not fully explored yet.  The Silverstein remark:

          A PBS documentary about the 9/11/01 attack, America Rebuilds, features an interview with the leaseholder of the destroyed WTC complex, Larry Silverstein. In it, the elderly developer makes the following statement:

          I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.

           

          This statement seems to suggest that the FDNY decided to demolish the building in accordance with Silverstein's suggestion, since the phrase "pull it" in this context seems to mean to demolish the building. At least that interpretation appears to be supported by a statement by a Ground Zero worker in the same documentary:

          ... we're getting ready to pull the building six.

           

          Then

          An alternative interpretation of Silverstein's statement is that "pull it" refers to withdrawing firefighters from the building. However, according to FEMA's report there were no manual firefighting operations in Building 7, so there would not have been any firefighters to "pull" -- at least not from inside the building.

          WTC 7 collapsed approximately 7 hours after the collapse of WTC 1. Preliminary indications were that, due to lack of water, no manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY.  

          "Stonemason" has nothing to do with "Freemasonry." We build architecture with stone.

          by stonemason on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 06:18:08 PM PDT

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