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  •  who the fuck needs a mint to make music? (0+ / 0-)

    It's cause our business model dictates that for every person actually playing music, there have to be 100 other motherfuckers who need to get paid....

    Robert Fripp is full of interesting aphorisms, some of which I agree with and some of which I don' of the ones I do agree with is "discard the superfluous."

    At some point there will be a market correction, not unlike the one that happened in the dotcom business not too long ago, and everyone who isn't contributing anything of significant value to the musicians==>audience relationship is going to get squeezed....

    Dreams of empire die hard; empire, that goes away quickly.--Juan Cole

    by nota bene on Sat Apr 14, 2007 at 09:00:01 AM PDT

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    •  I hear you. (0+ / 0-)

      . . . But, you hear me in that the mint is not to make the music, nota bene (although you know how that can be expensive).  The Mint is in the cost of product launch.  Same with any product in any industry . . . no getting around it.

      Market correction  . . .  yeah.  But, not someday.  Try now.  There is flux in every business model, but what is going on now in music is epic.  Everything is changing, down to the basic cost of touring.  You know how that goes.    

      Marketing at labels may be top heavy, but agencies and management firms like the one in which I am contracted with, along with publicists and those 32nd floor attorney armies are pretty lean on the battle front as is.  You can lay off half the hospital wing, but ain't no one gonna call it a "correction" because there won't be much correct.  

      Have a good one.  Off to convention alley to lob a few live ones in the trenches.

      "Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor." --Sholem Yakov Rabinowitz

      by Back in the Cave on Sat Apr 14, 2007 at 10:26:19 AM PDT

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      •  well (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, the market correction is ongoing, I agree....and yes I agree about everybody being "lean on the battlefront"....I don't pretend to know what the industry is going to look like in ten years but I feel pretty confident that it's going to based around some sort of wildly different model and nobody but nobody knows what the hell it will be like....

        I do know a guy who spent about a quarter million dollars just to produce an album....really good studios and really good engineers & producers are expensive, but your point stands....the promo/marketing/distro/merch start-up/ad naus (and all the lawyers & accountants etc it entails) is phenomenally expensive, but the economics of the marketplace are not supporting all of that anymore....if I'd only forced myself to take Econ 101 I think I could put this better, but the market clearing price for music is dropping rapidly and more people are going to be forced to do something else....the only constant is still the engine that drives the whole thing, which is [musicians==>audience]....

        I can't point to the exact moment in time when everything became so fucking expensive, but it had to have been after Elvis and the Beatles....the industry is set up to create home runs and everyone needs to remember how to play small ball again....

        I'm not happy about any of it, but the more musicians know about this sooner, the better IMHO....good luck in Vegas (which coincidentally is where my ex-singer is now)....

        Dreams of empire die hard; empire, that goes away quickly.--Juan Cole

        by nota bene on Sat Apr 14, 2007 at 04:49:55 PM PDT

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