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  •  OK. Concern noted. But before you ... (5+ / 0-)

    ...push too hard in the direction you've proposed, could you please ask a few Indians - say, for example, the people at the Native American Rights Fund, how they feel about your proposals? Because to the majority of Indians, abolishing reservations means just an extension of the policy of physical and cultural genocide that you admit is a black mark on America's history.

    •  You are right (0+ / 0-)

      about getting the view of the natives living on the reservations.  I think it would be wrong to make decisions without their input.  I think it is wrong to make decisions about any group without taking thier point of view.  I wasn't trying to push too hard, I was just stating how I feel.  I have never contacted my congess person about this, and never would without spending many hours doing research so I could make sure I was well informed.  

      But, I also believe that people living on or near reservations who are not native should be given a chance to add input as well.

      And I can definitely see how it would be viewed, and rightly so, as just another broken treaty.  Just another "Bald faced lie."

      The truth is, there is no simple answer.  I hope we can agree to disagree on this subject.  Wouldn't this make an excellent diary?  Wish I had the time to do the research.  Maybe this summer.  Or, maybe someone more skilled at research than myself can take it on.    At any rate.  Peace to you all.

      "It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." ~Voltaire

      by atmplant on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 08:49:03 AM PDT

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    •  no kidding (2+ / 0-)
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      it would be nice if things wern't done from ignorance for once. It's all been tried before. Assimilation failed, Termination failed, Mass murder failed. Asking Indians might work, try that.

      •  You are correct! (0+ / 0-)

        I guess I did, unintentionally, ask some Indians.  I am not saying I'm right, but I won't admit I'm wrong either.  I will admit I have much, obviously very much, to learn.  That is what I love about this blog.  Free sharing of ideas.  

        I lived in Rapid City SD for three years, and now live in WA.  I have seen normal people become very angry at Native Americans because of "special treatment" they recieve based on SNS.  I'm not trying to take sides and say one is right or the other is wrong.  It all starts with dialog, and I am glead we are having this one.

        I did not take into account the view of the people whose view on this matter is most important.  That was me being studpid.  I am wiser now, but my opinion is unchanged.  Maybe, like cacamp said, I need to take an Indian 101 class.  

        I do appreciate all the dialog.  Thanx!!

        "It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." ~Voltaire

        by atmplant on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 10:29:38 AM PDT

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        •  Probability (0+ / 0-)

          I have seen normal people become very angry at [insert group] because of... [reason they perceive]

          Maybe that's a problem with what attitudes we fail to correct in each other and let pass as "normal."

          I mean, yeah, it could be a problem with [reason they perceive], but just drawing from what I've seen of people and applying some basic reasoning and speculation to that, I'm inclined to guess that the problem is actually more likely to be the first thing I mentioned, not this second.

          You could draw the opposite conclusion about the probability of which factor is really the big problem even applying the same sound reasoning but to different experiences of seeing people in your life, but that's the one I drew--food for thought.

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