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  •  Well said Geekesque.. (1+ / 0-)
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    Geekesque

    Unfortunately, we have to deal with the reality of the mess.

    •  I'm in alliance with anybody who supports ... (10+ / 0-)

      ...a timetable of one year or less to get us out of Iraq. I think it should and COULD be done, logistically speaking, more quickly.

      If, by the "reality of the mess" you mean that we - as progressives - don't have the votes to force an immediate withdrawal (completed in four to six months, as Jack Murtha proposed in December 2005), then, of course, I agree. We may not even have enough Democratic votes to send back a supplemental with timetables or other provisions (like the short leash approach). So, I understand "reality."

      But if you are arguing that we have to stay for longer than a year because otherwise there will be a "bloodbath," then I don't agree with you. Whenever the U.S. leaves, then the putative bloodbath will or will not occur. And this argues for a sooner rather than later withdrawal.

      •  And, of course, there really isn't another word (3+ / 0-)
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        Meteor Blades, offgrid, Catrina

        to describe what's going on now than "bloodbath"...

      •  By reality... (0+ / 0-)

        I mean "This wasn't of our doing and if it had been up to us the chaos that is Iraq NOW wouldn't exist but this GOP Administration has left it for us to deal with" sort of reality.

        Personally, I see no reason why we cannot leave Iraq within a year. I see that as very reasonable and doable.

        •  And to those on the right... (4+ / 0-)
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          kid oakland, dangoch, rlharry, offgrid

          Who say a timeline is outrageous use this:

          Courtesy of Think Progress:

          "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

          -- George W. Bush, 4/9/99, criticizing President Clinton for not setting a timetable for exiting Kosovo.

          "I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."

          -- George W. Bush, 6/5/99

      •  with the veto, we don't need votes (1+ / 0-)
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        Catrina

        i wish people would stop and admire the beauty of the situation we find ourselves in right now.  there's no need to get more votes, or rush around looking for another bill.

        as things stand now, the money runs out in a couple months.  all we need to do is make sure we don't flinch and stupidly write another check for the occupation.

        and it's beautiful in terms of political payback too, because as it stands right now, the president is the one who cut off funding for the troops.

        this is exactly what the tao masters were talking about.  sometimes the best way to solve a problem is to sit back and do nothing.

        l'audace! l'audace! toujours l'audace!

        by zeke L on Tue May 01, 2007 at 09:16:17 PM PDT

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