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  •  Well, it depends-- (7+ / 0-)

    If they voted against the AUMF, the MCA, the Patriot Act, and for keeping Habeaus Corpus as the constitution requires--I might consider cutting them some slack.  Since none of them did, however, I think the slack should be used to

    "String 'em up."

    Please pardon the cowboy talk...

    How many wrongs does it take to make a right?

    by pdknz on Tue May 08, 2007 at 09:51:30 PM PDT

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    •  Now let's go clear some brush n/t (4+ / 0-) hell below us, above us only sky.

      by rightiswrong on Tue May 08, 2007 at 09:57:27 PM PDT

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    •  I think Chafee (4+ / 0-)

      voted against AUMF, against MCA, for the amendment that would have restored Habeas protections to the MCA, and though he voted for the Patriot Act with 98 other senators, I'm sure he voted for the Democratic-supported revisions in 2005.

      Of course, he also voted for cloture on Alito, which undoes half of that or more.  But there are seven Democratic senators to blame for that, along with Chafee.

      Anyway, I'm no Chafee defender, but thought I'd set the record straight.  There was one Republican who meets your whole list.

      (I think Jim Leach in the House probably qualifies too.  I know he voted against AUMF.)

      •  How About Ron Paul? (0+ / 0-)

        It's almost 2am and I am too tired to look it up.  Does he make the whole list, too?

        •  He might, (0+ / 0-)

          but his motivations for voting no are so completely f'd up that I don't count him.

          •  His Motivations For Opposing Taxpayer Funded (0+ / 0-)

            stem cell research make way more sense than Senator Bob Casey's.  Paul opposes using taxpayer money for almost any reason including the Iraq war, the military-industrial complex in general, corporate welfare, the war on drugs, etc.  Agree or disagree, the fact that he includes stem cell research is perfectly consistent with his libertarian philosophy.  That cannot be said for the pro-life, Democratic Casey.  He opposes stem cell research whether it is taxpayer funded or not.  Somehow in his mind, you must throw away the leftover stem cells from fertility clinics instead of using them to save lives because of some vague notion of preserving the "sanctity of life".  That makes no sense to me whatsoever.  In your words, it is completely f'd up.  I sure am glad he is my Senator instead of Santorum, though.

      •  What about Connie Morella? (0+ / 0-)

        She wasn't able to fulfill some of your terms due to having lost her seat in 2002, but here's a fairly accurate depiction of her voting record (including voting against the AUMF):

        Morella was able to survive as a Republican in a heavily Democratic district by earning a reputation for independence. She opposed her party's positions on abortion, gun control, gay rights, and the environmental movement, voted for government funding of contraceptives and needle exchange programs for drug addicts, and favored the legalization of medical marijuana. She also received the support of organized labor and opposed many tax cuts. She voted against declaring English the official language of the United States and in 1996 against a bill overwhelmingly approved by Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton, to combat illegal immigration. Morella was the only Republican in the entire Congress to vote against approving the use of military force in Iraq in 1991 and in 2002. Indeed, by many surveys, her voting record was consistently one of the most liberal of any Republican in the House.

        Wikipedia link

    •  Use "I Support Legal Abortion" to defuse the glue (0+ / 0-)

      that holds together the corporate-neocon and social conservative alliance.

      No A-B-O-R-T-I-O-N I-S-S-U-E. No alliance.

      Eliminate this crappy blither about "Choice" and the memorized mantra about "safe, legal and rare."

      Hit the abortion nail on the head. Either the voter wants abortion legal or the voter wants it illegal.

      That's all there is to it. Force choice: up or down on legal abortion.

      Amazingly, framed legal vs. illegal, Democrats win that one. Take it straight up, the Democrats get the majority of votes from conservative church goers nationwide.

      And the GOP gets its ass shattered... cuz the GOP base, today, is a one-issue political base.

      Jefferson and the Dixie Chicks. Imus and Lenny Bruce. Overcome evil with good.

      by vets74 on Wed May 09, 2007 at 05:09:07 AM PDT

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