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  •  This is going to be a weird time... (15+ / 0-)

    Because you're 100% right.  We're going to see a ton of politically engaged seniors in the next few years and that's clearly going to impact our spending priorities.  And it totally should.  We need to take care of our senior citizens.

    But man... young people are in a really crappy situation thanks to the mismanagement of the American economy under the Republicans.  Huge debt-to-income ratios are nearly inescapable for anyone who wants to do silly things like "go to college" and "buy a home".  So finding the funding to actually do what needs to be done will be hard.  And it's going to be a harder and harder political sell as time goes on, unfortunately.

    Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

    by ChicagoDem on Fri May 11, 2007 at 09:13:52 AM PDT

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    •  Yep (13+ / 0-)

      and one of the very few solutions involves taxes and as soon as that issue crops up someone in the media or on the right (they are still separate, right?) will jump up and say, "See, we've been telling you all along!"

      I think we need a candidate who steps up to the mic and says something along the lines of the following:

      Will I raise taxes as has been the stereotype trafficked by the right for so long?  It's certainly very possible since we are in such a deep mess and have too much to do.  It would be mighty stupid to take off the table one of the tools available to fix the situation solely due to some childish rhetoric based on bad economics coming out of Grover Norquist's pinhead, doncha think?

      The world is changing and we'd better find a way to change with it or get left behind and that will cost a lot of money since so much investment has been lost to a venture in Iraq that never should have happened along with the corrupt, criminal cronyism that has been W's presidency.

      There's a lot to fix.  It's going to cost a lot of money.  There's a lot to do to move us forward.  It's going to cost a lot of money.  We can cut some bureaucracy.  We can streamline some government services.  We can turn the lights out in DC when we leave the room.  But that will only take us so far.

      Given how deep our deficit is and how heavy a burden our debt is and how much we have to do, I won't rule out any policy tool to get us there.

      But, we need to start where the current administration leaves off and that's with serious deliberation and argument requiring diverse points of view and plenty of intelligence and analysis grounded in the real world.  In short, we need exactly what we have needed since January 2001 and have yet to get under the current president: policy and wisdom.

      Give me ten lines from a good man and I'll find something in there to hang him. - Cardinal Richelieu

      by lgrooney on Fri May 11, 2007 at 09:28:27 AM PDT

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      •  Can you say INVESTMENT? (6+ / 0-)

        All of us and every Democratic candidate needs to talk about investing in America. Investing in our children (education, healthcare), investing in our working men & women (healthcare, day care, mass transit), investing in our nation (alternative and clean energy), and on and on.

        If you've done well as a result of the investment of prior generations, you have an obligation to pay a reasonable portion of that back to the society that made your success possible, not to mention for maintenance costs on the framework that makes it possible for you to continue to reap the benefits of your efforts. Little things like the SEC, the Justice System, the highway system, and the US Armed Forces.

        We need to change the language and change the mindset. Don't use the "T" word, it's all about investing in our collective future.

        Democracy is a contact sport...

        by jsmagid on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:04:40 AM PDT

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        •  Well that's the big problem though... (4+ / 0-)

          The generation currently in power hasn't been investing in anything but its own 401K's.  It's cut the social safety net down to the bone, and it's borrowed to fund the stuff that absolutely NEEDS to be funded.  As the current generation of twentysomethings gets older and has to deal with all of their personal debt (which is necessary for college, home ownership, and maybe even medical bills) plus the cost of paying down the national debt, it's going to be really hard to "sell" investment in vital programs like Social Security and Medicare.  Honestly, this problem already kind of freaks me out.

          Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

          by ChicagoDem on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:56:00 AM PDT

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      •  Straight talk (2+ / 0-)
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        You have my vote. Unfortunately, the last (Mondale?) candidate who didn't take the increasing taxes tool off the table lost.


        It would be mighty stupid to take off the table one of the tools available to fix the situation solely due to some childish rhetoric based on bad economics coming out of Grover Norquist's pinhead, doncha think?

        especially when Norquist has  been more wrong than right :)

        It isn't shameful to vote your own self-interest instead of the interests of multi-national corporations--iceman

        by fumie on Fri May 11, 2007 at 11:40:44 AM PDT

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      •  Very artful. But I'm sick of artful. (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm sick of wink and nod.

        I'm sick of noble words spoken to deceive.

        I'm sick of talking in code when speaking of the future of our country.

        These people are THIEVES.

        They paid off their rich friends (who spent them into power) by cutting their taxes.

        They have stolen our treasure and set up our finances so their friends can steal from us too. (After all, you can't be too rich, can you?)

        And all the time they're doing it, they're lying to us. They're bullshitting us. They know it. We know it. They know we know it but it never stops. Hyperbole can and does kill - we see it everyday in Iraq. We see it everyday in our 'health care' system.

        Reinstate the taxes that were.

        And stop bullshitting me.

        "We're all in this together" -- Harry Tuttle, legendary plumber

        by bablhous on Fri May 11, 2007 at 07:15:16 PM PDT

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    •  Well If Fred Thompson Gets Into The Race (5+ / 0-)

      this will get the attention of the Seniors pretty damn quick. Thompson wants to cut Social Security benefits

      Thompson suggested that the solution to the forecast shortfall in Social Security and Medicare might rest in cutting benefits.

      That would make such a great Face Of The Republican Party ad.

      Support Reid/Feingold

      by MO Blue on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:47:46 AM PDT

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      •  I love the Republicans who want to cut... (17+ / 0-) security, but then always make sure to collect their fair share.  

        I am tired of people who are so selfish that they want to cut all the social programs that they have benefitted from.  I am tired of people who have benefitted from public schools and don't want to fund them.  I am tired of people who want to drive giant, gas-sucking vehicles but bitch, bitch, bitch about the price of gas.  I am tired of people who never use public transportation but don't want to pay taxes to maintain roads.  I am tired of a LOT of people - because, unfortunately, a lot of people I know seem to fit into the above categories.

        "The feeling of respect for all species will help us recognize the noblest nature in ourselves." - Thich Nhat Hanh

        by friendlyfire on Fri May 11, 2007 at 11:12:48 AM PDT

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      •  Thompson looks like last weeks (2+ / 0-)
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        great white hope.  His speech in the OC apparently fizzled big time.  The man does not look Reaganesque at all despite the best efforts to pronounce him so.  My prediction is that after his brief testing of the waters he runs back to a long term contract with Dick Wolf.

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