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  •  I'm in no way in favour (2+ / 0-)
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    ChicagoDem, pkbarbiedoll

    of rampant, unregulated, free-market capitalism.  I agree with the bulk of your comment.

    Enforcing work and environmental standards is a great idea and should be pursued - my point was that it won't stop globalization from happening.  Your criticisms of globalization are all valid, but they are of the form that globalization takes, not the fact of it.  They also concentrate on the effects on the developing world, which is exactly as it should be.

    My point is that there is a squeeze on the middle class in America, and people are being told that it's because jobs are moving overseas.  This is not happening in other developed countries.  The middle class is doing brilliantly over here, and in Scandinavia for example.  For this particular issue, globalization is not the problem, it's domestic policy and pretending that we can't do anything about it elides a raft of progressive domestic policies that could help the American middle class.

    Shoulder the sky, my lad, and drink your ale... A.E. Housman

    by ignatz uk on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:23:57 AM PDT

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    •  Interesting -- raises a question (2+ / 0-)
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      pkbarbiedoll, ignatz uk

      How is Scandanavia improving the economic health of its middle class without its major employers choosing to jump to Eastern Europe or some other convenient cheap labor market?  Is it just a cultural thing or what?

      Read James Loewen's "Sundown Towns"!

      by ChicagoDem on Fri May 11, 2007 at 10:27:09 AM PDT

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    •  Gave you rec but I still disagree (0+ / 0-)

      that rampant offshoring doesn't have a negative affect on wages and opportunity in America.  And I'm sorry, I am an American and love my country.. I'm not anti 'ferners' as your diary insinuates.  America has a RICH tradition of immigration and innovation.  We have done much harm in the world recently, but that is no fault of mine or most Americans who after 9/11 believed our fearless fool, mistakenly.  Most Americans have a spirit of compassion unsurpassed in the world.  Corporations and the super-wealthy have marred our image, and I believe globalization at the expense of our environment & labor worldwide is one of the reasons why.  Of course, I don't expect certain countries benefitting from outsourcing to complain any - in fact I would be surprised if folks from India for example did nothing but praise the globalization movement - but soon enough they too will be replaced when cheaper labor pools emerge elsewhere.

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