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  •  What's amazing (2+ / 0-)
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    is how hybrid sales and SUV sales could both be strong. And then there's the SUV hybrids... the less said about them the better IMHO.

    Let the beauty we love be what we do. ~Rumi

    by redlami on Mon May 14, 2007 at 08:52:53 AM PDT

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    •  And the tax credits to those (5+ / 0-)

      SUV hybrids angers / disgusts me ...

      Blogging regularly at Ecotality Blog for a Sustainable Future.

      by A Siegel on Mon May 14, 2007 at 08:53:49 AM PDT

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      •  Tax credits (1+ / 0-)
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        should be based on fuel economy, not vehicle type.  A 50mpg vehicle should get a bigger credit than a 40mpg one.  An SUV hybrid that gets 28mpg might seem impressive to people used to 9mpg but it's still just a slightly less wasteful gas guzzler.

        Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy."

        by Event Horizon on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:16:18 AM PDT

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        •  call me crazy (0+ / 0-)

          but I see a hybrid SUV as a good thing... its a step in the right direction.  Think about it, this person would have otherwise gotten a SUV with 15 MPG, with the hybrid they are still doubling thier gas millage.

          the journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step.

          •  It would be cheaper (0+ / 0-)

            to make people understand that they don't need the silly things in the first place.  Maybe start an ad campaign for a really good penis enlargement therapy that makes fun of SUVs.     Don't get that Navigator, buy the Embiggener 3000 and save $50,000.

            Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy."

            by Event Horizon on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:57:52 AM PDT

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      •  Tax credits themselves anger and disgust me. (0+ / 0-)

        Why do you need the government to bribe you to buy a fuel efficient car?  If you really believe that gas prices are going up, up, up, then you should not need any more incentive.

        All the credits do is provide a hedge against the possibility that gas goes down and that you lose out by having paid more for a hybrid.  If hybrids make no economic sense, by costing more then you end up saving, the government should not remove this risk any more then the government should remove the risk of higher prices from inefficient vehicles through gas subsidies.

        Tax credits pervert your incentives and reward you for subsidizing fuel inefficient vehicles by artificially decreasing demand, thus lowering prices.  They also distort the car market by providing the hybrid buyer with what amounts to a win-win situation, wining if gas goes up or if gas goes down.

        Sometimes I think that I'm bigger than the sound . . .

        by TastyCurry on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:39:28 AM PDT

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        •  Reason is ... (1+ / 0-)
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          to help spark the market toward mass production and mass availability, at ever more competitive prices ...

          Now, probably better to spark move to energy efficiency rather than to be 'choosing' the answer.

          Although, I am a big believer in PHEVs and would welcome them being driven into the market space.

          Blogging regularly at Ecotality Blog for a Sustainable Future.

          by A Siegel on Mon May 14, 2007 at 12:09:56 PM PDT

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    •  It makes sense (4+ / 0-)
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      The price and environmentally sensitive are switching to better technology.  The people who don't care, aren't.  

      This is by far the most compelling argument for just slapping on a big tax---it makes more people price-sensitive.

      Tom Menino heard the quad laser is wicked powerful.

      by theran on Mon May 14, 2007 at 08:56:15 AM PDT

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    •  see Bush's tax cuts... (1+ / 0-)
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      the rich are richer then they have ever been. That giant suck you've been hearing for the past 7 years has been wealth transferring from the middle class to the rich at an astonishing criminal rate. This is the story no one in mainstream media will focus on because their corporate owners make sure that anyone providing us with news is being paid at a rate that keeps them in the top 1% so it's against their interest to focus on the "problem" that is making them richer.

      Now, people had lost their fear. From that moment I knew we would win. - Oscar Olivera

      by Josh Prophet on Mon May 14, 2007 at 12:03:51 PM PDT

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