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  •  It's interesting to separate out energy demand (2+ / 0-)
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    In the US, demand and use of energy for industrial purposes looks like it fell off a cliff (same for greenhouse gas emissions).  This trend follows the same pattern as manufacturing employment.  Effectively, America doesn't manufacture anything anymore. And industries like steel are very energy intensive.

    The other component of energy demand, home use, cars, travel, etc... has increased. Although many people might know anecdotally of people who like to conserve, installed solar panels, etc... the fact is we still consume like energy pigs.

    The overall picture looks like progress (in terms of using less energy), but in fact, is really a symptom of industrial decline.

    •  Weapons (0+ / 0-)

      don't forget we make great weapons.  That's one of our growth industries.  OK, that's our only growth industry.

      Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy."

      by Event Horizon on Mon May 14, 2007 at 11:35:06 AM PDT

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      •  We do make weapons, and boy are they expensive (3+ / 0-)

        Unfortunately (from the standpoint of skills and American jobs) I think we are losing our competitive edge there.

        Although there may be growth in $$ terms, foreign groups like BAE systems and Singapore Technologies are making formidable bids for defense contracts.  As for dual use technologies groups like Boeing increasingly outsource production of parts (like engines and wings) of planes to manufacturers in Japan, Korea, and China.

        [am I cynical today or what?]

        •  They're also crap... (1+ / 0-)
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          Event Horizon

          ...see the histories of the V-22 or F-22 programs for concrete examples. JTRS and FCS have also turned into large black holes dedicated to the consumption of tax dollars.

          "Our generals are not worthy of their soldiers." - Lt. Col. Paul Yingling

          by bluewolverine on Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:00:57 PM PDT

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