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  •  WTF? (9+ / 0-)

    What's really great is that you have no actual photocopy of this supposed document, which is really why I find your characterization so out of hand.

    Dude. He acknowledged publishing these racist articles at least twice. The first time he said he wrote them in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." The second time he pulled the Alberto Gonzales defense and said that staffers wrote them.

    It took me a long time to assemble these resources. The least you could do is check them out before accusing me of making them up. God.

    •  I've already seen what you've been pushing (3+ / 0-)

      And the reason they aren't worth anything is that they are second hand accounts, and for what has apparently been quoted, it is quite possible that it was campaign people in his office who published the material without his complete recommendation.

      The guy has said a lot over his lifetime, and the fact that he stands up for the freedom of every single american citizen reguardless of skin color is clear with every vote that he makes.

      Now, keep in mind that Paul advances legislation for consideration by the congress all the time. Where once has he proposed legislation against any race, let alone one about "blacks"?

      Let me tell you where... no where... because the man isn't a racist, which anyone who spends 5 minutes watching his youtube videos can tell. He is an honest and caring doctor who has delivered 4000 babies. Do you want to take odss on how many of those babies were "black"? I really don't think you would, as you'd find out that your "full-blown racist" story is a piece of crap.

      •  Once again, with feeling. (1+ / 0-)
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        Ron Paul addressed these statements specifically. For him to do that, they'd pretty much have to exist, wouldn't they? The first time he addressed them, he flat-out admitted writing them. It wasn't until 2001 that he changed his story and blamed them on "other people."

        From the rest of your comment it's obvious that you haven't actually read the diary, so there's really no point in continuing this dialogue until you do.

        •  I've actually read your diary (4+ / 0-)
          I've read forum posts on top of forum posts on this monstrosity of a smear.

          I realize supposedly this Texas Monthly article has some comment from him about this, but I've never seen any reference to the actual date this article supposedly exists in.

          All I've got is the fact that the guy was drafted and "served" in Vietnam as a flight surgeon. I wonder how many minorities he threw off those planes rather than fix their wounds... since he's sucha nasty "racist scumbag".

          I guarentee you he's saved more lives of minorities than you would ever have the guts to, to think that he is being disparaged this way when he has honestly served other people his entire life is the height of the shame smear artists will risk to preserve their own broken houses.

          •  See, that's how I know you didn't read the diary. (1+ / 0-)
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            Because if you had, you'd have seen this:

            Years later, in an interview printed in the October 2001 issue of Texas Monthly, Paul changed his story about these and other racist comments

            •  I actually did read your diary (0+ / 0-)

              and I'm sure that really hurts you in some bizarre way. The reality is that no one has posted that complete article online with the date the entire "actual interview" was supposedly taken. Sorry, I read your diary... and yes, I'm sorry that I read your diary.

              •  Oh, for the love of-- (2+ / 0-)
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                The article was written by Sam Gwynne, an executive editor of Texas Monthly. It appeared in the October 2001 issue of the magazine. Gwynne writes, in the first person, that he asked Paul about the racist statements directly, and printed Paul's reply. Given magazine lead times, I would imagine the actual conversation took place in early to mid-summer of 2001, if it matters. Yes, I am in possession of the Texas Monthly article, which I obtained from LexisNexis. No, I will not post the entire contents of a copyrighted magazine article online for your benefit.

                •  That's convenient (1+ / 0-)
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                  No need to go further. The man isn't a racist, as it simply isn't in his history of service anywhere.

                  If you should be after anyone, it should probably be Senator Byrd, a guy who actually backed legislation against minority races... but I'm sure you only put your word out on the really bad people... you know, drafted veterans who haven't said a racist work in their lives that has actually been documented on tape.

                  •  wow (4+ / 0-)
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                    You're shilling hard for this guy-- to the point where you're attacking Kossacks and Democratic senators-- in order to deny what is pretty clearly in his record.

                    That's a shame.

                    •  In his voting and legislation record? (2+ / 0-)
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                      I'm not finding it. In fact I don't see him having participated in white supremacy rallies either. The guy was born and raised in Pennsylvania, you know, "the north", "the union". The guy only went to Texas when he was drafted, so alot of the associations being made between him and Texas branded racist red meat is hokey at best. That is simply not this guys MO, and you can see it claerly on any youtube wideo with Ron Paul in it.
                  •  Spoken like a true Republican. (1+ / 0-)
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                    Mia Dolan

                    You outed yourself with that Rush Limbaugh talking point. I'm through with you. Cheers.

                    •  Never listened to Rush Limbaugh in my life (5+ / 0-)

                      but Byrd was in fact a Klan member, and if you want to actually be principled in your position, I would assume that you'd want to be even handed in your smear campaigns. Its hard to point the finger when you embrace those of your own party they have largely documented legislative records on the subject.

                      But yes, I am a traditional constitutional libertarian Republican. I am not a neocon though, and in fact the only Republican I support or will vote for at this time is Ron Paul.

                      I voted for Sherrod Brown last election simply to help wash te neocons out of our system, and it is clear to me that another congressional neocon flushing will be required in '08.

                      But the only reason I am doing so is because the Republican Party of today has to die before the Republican Party of liberty can be rebuilt.

                      •  LOL (1+ / 0-)
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                        clonecone

                        Ron Paul isn't anything close to a real constitutional libertarian Republican.  But he is a racist pile of crap.

                        They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.

                        by Mia Dolan on Tue May 15, 2007 at 09:46:09 PM PDT

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                        •  Try reading the constitution (1+ / 0-)
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                          and comparing it to his voting record. It is quite clear that he is the only person in the congress who votes with a constitutional principle, and the desire not to waste the people's money.
                          •  I guess that would depend (0+ / 0-)

                            on your definition of waste.

                            Personally, I believe it's more important to live up to the intent of the Constitution than its words. The Preamble tells me its purpose, and I take it to be just as important as the parts that follow.

                            "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein

                            by scoff0165 on Wed May 16, 2007 at 06:48:49 PM PDT

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