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    17 May 2006

    Notice the dates:

    The 30 production-representative vests will be delivered to H.P. White in Street, Md., for ballistic testing. HP White is the only National Institute of Justice-certified,independent, ballistic-testing laboratory in the United States capable of conducting the complete First Article Test. This is the same facility and ballistic testing standards used on the body armor currently fielded to Soldiers.

    May 19, 2006

    MSNBC:

    After three days of testing this week, the Army determined the body armor does not meet military specifications, said the official, who would not specify which tests the armor failed.

    Apparently there has been some challenges to the quality/standards of this (and the IBA/E-SAPPI Armor) testing.  Interesting history here:

    According to Allan D. Bain, the inventor of DragonSkin, the armor failed because it did not observe "the Article One testing environmental conditioning protocol, which calls for the armor to withstand 165 degrees F for 6 hours," thus the adhesive failed.[13]

     Might explain the following:

    From a Military/LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) Only forum on www.Silencertests.com.... in October 2006.  if you are military/LEO you can go there and register.  It is a very interesting thread.  Many think the concept is great... a few don't like them.  Only a couple have actually used it.

    Dragonskin is promising but the reality of the DOD test was that the vest suffered disk migration. In other words, the disks moved. That makes holes in your protection. Holes are bad...

    The company has since addressed the issue according to the owner but I think that the concept will have to be thoroughly tested and proven by multiple agencies on paper before I believe it.

    I agree that plates are old technology but right now plates are the only proven protection out there.

    There is a good discussion on the topic at Lightfighter where some of the DOD folks weighed in.

    Same User a few posts down:

    The Dragon Skin I was issued was anything but flexible. It felt like it was about a foot thick as well.

    They ended up being floor mats in the vehicles.

    Until they can figure out this "disk migration" issue and explain how angled hits from the sides don't go under the scales, there are going to be issues. Neat concept but it needs work.

    Who this guy is, I don't know.  I take it that he is a cop with military (or experience overseas with military).  How he knows this about the testing, I don't know.

    I tried to answer previous questions and give what info I could on both sides.  

    "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."- Vegetius

    by Captain Infidel on Thu May 17, 2007 at 07:54:33 PM PDT

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