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  •  It gives him credibility (0+ / 0-)

    And he will use it to hurt people. Just read his campaign website.

    "I have a dream" King Jr.

    "I have a book deal" Perves Musharraf

    by allmost liberal european on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:06:39 PM PDT

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    •  he's not going to be elected president (7+ / 0-)

      no matter what Senator Obama does with him.

      I want to win. You want to beat him, and that's a problem for me, because I want to win. -The West Wing

      by AnnArborBlue on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:07:34 PM PDT

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    •  You mean it gives Brownback credibility? (0+ / 0-)

      -5.88, -7.49 "Will you stand up for an energy policy not dictated by the profits of big oil companies?"- John Edwards

      by cjallen on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:07:59 PM PDT

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    •  I think we have to work with him whenever we can (3+ / 0-)
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      I mean, isn't it good politics to join your enemies so as to immunize yourself from partisan attacks?

      Bipartisanship in this case benefits both Brownback and Obama, but it still benefits Obama and that's what we need. I think the only effective way to fight Brownback is at the ballot box for his nuttiness.

      Bush spent his political capital like a sailor on shore leave, and we all got an STD.

      by jkennerl on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:09:55 PM PDT

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      •  Hello? Immunize you from political attacks? (3+ / 0-)

        Have you forgotten the past six years with this Republican Party of the early 21st Century?  Have you forgotten that Democrats did "join their enemies" for years and that is why we are now digging ourselves out of a deep damn hole.

        Kennedy worked like hell on No Child Left Vehind only to see it largely unfunded.  Leahy worked on the Patriot Act only to see it go way too far.  Democrats in the House voted for the Energy Bill only to wake up the next morning to find lobbyist's amendments that they never knew about in the law.

        Sheesh, I am all for working with people, but these people are about as reliable and forthright as a bunch of god damned crack addicts.

        •  True. (0+ / 0-)

          But if we give up on cooperation, we're just like them. And I think Sen. Brownback really believes in what he's doing on Sudan and Iran, so why shouldn't Obama support him? Even if he hits us hard politically, didn't he just enable a good solution?

          I agree that inordinately trusting the GOP is not necessarily the answer. But to do it not at all would be to make their mistake.

          Bush spent his political capital like a sailor on shore leave, and we all got an STD.

          by jkennerl on Sat May 19, 2007 at 11:12:40 PM PDT

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          •  For me it isn't about not cooperating - it is (1+ / 0-)
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            about cooperating with people who make good decisions - something the key players including Brownback rarely make.

            In any case, I completely disagree with the tactic that these two are pushing and I couldn't care less who came up with the idea.  It is a bad idea.  They will only create a greater void that will be filled by Russia and China.  Eight years ago the threat of American economic embargos had meaning - now not so much.  Funny too - when you are talking about cooperating and not becoming "like them" and effectively that is exactly what an economic embargo on Iran is - an idea that is much more "like them" in that it is uncooperative - it is total offense and not diplomatic and the whole reason that Iran has become more radicalized is because of our failure to reach out.  And ironically you'll argue that we can't reach out because they are "bad"...

            I am much less concerned with the Brownback part than I am with the actual policy and how stupid I think it is.

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