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  •  Part of his stump speech in this campaign (6+ / 0-)

    uses extensive civil rights rhetoric, talking about the continued need for social progress. It's worth noting that many, many of the civil rights activists were motivated by their religious faith and conviction that they could achieve social equality.

    Personally, I don't have a problem if a group wants to use a school room for an after-school meeting, whether it's the French club or the debate team or the Wiccan society or the Bible study group, if these students don't have another feasible option. I'm agnostic myself and have no interest in such things, but I don't have a problem if other people do.

    Obama is certainly not for MANDATORY or compulsory prayer. But those who choose to say that Democrats should run away from religious issues are not only ceding the terrain to the Republicans, but disenfranchising many people for whom their spiritual faith is a strong motivator for their liberal principles.

    •  I think it is a bad move (0+ / 0-)

      The religious right is on the move, do you really want to allow them to close the gap between church and state?

      "I have a dream" King Jr.

      "I have a book deal" Perves Musharraf

      by allmost liberal european on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:35:35 PM PDT

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      •  There is a huge difference (6+ / 0-)

        between using religion as a tool of fascism and using it as a means of bridging the divide between people. The vast majority of Americans profess some sort of religious/spiritual inclination. This same vast majority is incredibly uncomfortable with how BushCo has used the meme of religion to perpetuate his ideology.

        I have many religious relatives who are disgusted with how Bush has bastardized what faith, religion and spirituality really mean.

        There are people on this website who want the Democratic party to be the party of atheists. That's a recipe for irrelevance in this country. We are the Big Tent, and that means including people who are motivated by their religion to pursue liberal and progressive ideals. It is Democrats who truly pursue "Christian" ideals of feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc.

        Even down here in Texas where I live, I know many, many liberal people who are also involved in religious activities. So I take great offense to the notion that such people do not belong in the party, should not be involved.

        Very, VERY few "religious" people want to use their phony piety to subvert the government.

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