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  •  Then we use diplomacy and economic incentives (1+ / 0-)
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    To DISCOURAGE acquiring nuclear technology for bombs.

    Sounds like common sense to me.

    Bush spent his political capital like a sailor on shore leave, and we all got an STD.

    by jkennerl on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:45:43 PM PDT

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    •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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      Excpet that we have no proof that they have a weapons program.  We need reconciliation.  We need to talk to them.  But we shouldn't be antagonistic.  We need a lot more carrot, and a lot less stick.

      -5.88, -7.49 "Will you stand up for an energy policy not dictated by the profits of big oil companies?"- John Edwards

      by cjallen on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:47:50 PM PDT

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      •  But what do you need? A polaroid? (1+ / 0-)
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        Ahmadinejad goes on Iranian TV say that Iran wants nuclear power and nuclear technology nearly once a week, they don't allow inspectors, and they want to wipe Israel off the map, as they assert over and over again.

        Maybe there is proof, and it's classified. Did you consider that?

        Bush spent his political capital like a sailor on shore leave, and we all got an STD.

        by jkennerl on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:50:39 PM PDT

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        •  Yes. But I don't consider him a threat, (0+ / 0-)

          as I've already said.  No leader of a developing nation is stupid enough to use a nuke.  That would be enough for even France and Germany and half of the world to join us in attacking them in response.  I don't think he doesn't know that.  Do you really htink he's crazier or stupider than the leader of North Korea?

          -5.88, -7.49 "Will you stand up for an energy policy not dictated by the profits of big oil companies?"- John Edwards

          by cjallen on Sat May 19, 2007 at 02:56:38 PM PDT

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        •  There is a totally different track here that (1+ / 0-)
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          no one here in the US who wants to go to war with Iran talks about - that is that China and Russia are funding the Iranian nuclear program so that they can get their oil.  Lots of carrot there and little stick.  The Iranians are apparently more addicted to oil than we are and they are building nuclear plants as a partial substitute to their problem so that they can sell the oil for a high price on the open market.

          What do you think BushCo's angle on that proposition would be?  Destroy the program so they can be the ones selling to a fuel starved China and to Russia.

          I don't think Obama knows what he is doing at all here and it is frustrating.  Creating more economic need will only speed up Iran's nuclear program and creating more antagonism will only increase Iran's desire to take their energy program to a weapons program.  It is not a smart strategy - but that's no surprise - Brownback supports it.

    •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

      I have heard Edwards talk about how he'd help provide them with nuclear energy in exchange for a halt to their weapons program.

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