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  •  I think this is wrong (2+ / 0-)
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    Elise, jessical

    it is wrong to take the people who do these horrid things and classify them as 'not human' in any way.  They are human. That's one of the reasons it's so disturbing.

    They are repulsive humans, but part of the repulsivity comes from the humanity.  

    If we read about disgusting behavior by animals, we say "oooooh, ick" but we don't say, "let's stop it!"

    If we say 'those people aren't  XXXX' then we dehumanize them, and their crimes and abominations.  They're human.  Just as the torturers, mass murderers, child abusers et al. are human.

    It is BECAUSE they are human that we have to deal with them.

    I was liberal when liberal wasn't cool

    by plf515 on Thu May 24, 2007 at 03:53:52 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks for articulating that plf... (2+ / 0-)
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      plf515, jessical

      I wanted to say something similar last night and then I got distracted with other comments.

      This part:

      Yet we are deeply involved - through trade, through war, and even through immigration - with whole cultures of such sub-human brutes.

      was what I found deeply upsetting and you've stated why much better and more politely than I could have. Thanks.

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        Elise, jessical

        Hannah Arendt's work affected me greatly....the banality of evil.

        Not to violate Godwin's rule, but of all the horrifying things about the Nazis, the most horrifying is that they are us.  We share the same genes with them.  Of course, we also share genes with Jesus, Gandhi and King....

        But no human is subhuman.

        One of the other influences was Robert Coles....a magnificent human being.  He said that one of the big differences between moral and immoral children is that the immoral ones divide the world into US and THEM.  Once you have a THEM then it becomes easier to justify abuse of THEM.  

        And once you start with abuse....

        Women are, of course, human.  So are the men who abuse them.  

        I was liberal when liberal wasn't cool

        by plf515 on Thu May 24, 2007 at 11:20:40 AM PDT

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