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  •  What is the difference between a civil union (0+ / 0-)

    and marriage?

    17. Ne5

    In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

    by Spud1 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 08:05:34 PM PDT

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    •  About the same (1+ / 0-)
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      as the difference between a divorce and a dissolusion.

      Of course, here in Ohio where we passed that abysimal anti-gay marriage amendment, there's every difference in the world.

      Be excellent to each other.-Bill and Ted
      Dispassionate Liberal

      by Mark Adams on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 08:24:37 PM PDT

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      •  No, I'm serious. What is the difference (0+ / 0-)

        between the two?

        17. Ne5

        In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

        by Spud1 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 08:27:43 PM PDT

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        •  Naturally it depends on the jurisdiction (0+ / 0-)

          In a State which passed an anti-gay marriage amendment, civil unions simply don't exist and despite full faith and credit, won't be recognized fromother states.

          For those that have recently passed them, I would have to read the statute to give you an informed answer.

          Be excellent to each other.-Bill and Ted
          Dispassionate Liberal

          by Mark Adams on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 08:37:08 PM PDT

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        •  marriage (1+ / 0-)
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          marriage is a religious ceremony recognized by the government as conferring certain rights and responsibilities under civil law.

          A civil union is solely a government contract entered into by two people conferring the rights and responsibilities of marriage, but separated from the religious implications.

          At least that is how I understand it.

          •  You have this incorrect. The State confers the (5+ / 0-)

            rights of marriage, not any house of worship. The State authorizes clergy to sign the marriage license, but no church, temple or mosque confers any legal rights.

            And this is my point. Straight couples already get a "civil union."

            17. Ne5

            In chess you may hit a man when he's down -- Irving Chernev, on Przepiorka v. Prokes, Budapest, 1929

            by Spud1 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 08:48:00 PM PDT

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        •  The difference (3+ / 0-)
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          is that 'civl unions' is a special new invention for gay people so bigots can claim that they aren't discriminating when they refuse to let them marry.

          In every case the legal protections are less than those offered by marriage, exactly what theey are vary from state to state and if you move to another state or country you may find yourself "divorced" against your will, and the federal governemnt doesn't recognize your sham marriage at all.

          Other than that, they are sort of the same..

          Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. - Sam J. Ervin, Jr.

          by tiponeill on Mon Jun 04, 2007 at 09:11:30 PM PDT

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