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  •  Is our Naderites learning? (3.66)
    I think we need to think outside of the box and see what we can learn from Nader.

    Looks like Nader's already learned dirty tricks from BushCo.  So easily nudged out of the light...

    The fool wonders, the wise man asks.

    by NTodd on Mon Jun 21, 2004 at 04:42:53 AM PDT

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    •  So you assume... (2.50)
      that anyone who dares critique the DNC is automatically a Naderite (implying, of course, that Naderites are not of sound mind).  Since when did the Democratic Party have a monopoly on liberal politics?  This is the kind of doctrinaire mindset that's causing stagnation in the Democratic Party (You're either with us or you're with the GOP!). Why can't progressives vote Green or Workers or whatever?  

      What really chaps my ass is the "How dare Nader dare challenge us" attitude.  First, think about why Nader is running (and no, it's not a pure ego trip).  Next, think about why he's a rival and not an ally yet.

      I was a Clark supporter and I was disgusted with the same kind of petty and insular rejection of Clark by so-called open-minded Democrats ("He voted for Reagan so my gf and I don't trust him") that's being directed at Nader. It's myopic and hypocritical.  

      Yes, many progressives will indeed hold their noses this November.  But they won't be voting for Kerry as much as against Bush.  

      If the Democrats want to win America's hearts and minds, they should run a truly progressive platform and act as real opposition to the Republicans and Wall Street.  In other words, they should be earning their votes.  It would be self-delusional to deny that the current wind in the Democrats' sails is powered significantly by the ABB movement.  If the Dems were truly serving their base, they wouldn't need to demonize upstarts like Nader (or guys like Jerry Brown in the past) to maintain some kind of legitimacy.

      •  A bit defensive, are we? (none)
        that anyone who dares critique the DNC is automatically a Naderite (implying, of course, that Naderites are not of sound mind).

        Nope.  I'm assuming Nader supporters are Naderites, and their constant harping about "not a dime's worth of difference" between the GOP and Dems rings a bit hollow, now more than ever.

        The fool wonders, the wise man asks.

        by NTodd on Mon Jun 21, 2004 at 11:49:05 AM PDT

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