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  •  You do realize, don't you, that God in that ... (0+ / 0-)

    story didn't actually want Abraham to kill his son?  When Abraham demonstrated that he was ready to do it, God told him not to.

    The traditional interpretation was that Abraham passed the test by proving his loyalty, but there is another interpretation, actually supported by a lot of things in the text itself, that Abraham FAILED the test by not refusing to do such an evil thing and not saying, "I know that God wouldn't really want me to do such an evil thing."  This is actually supported by the fact that after Abraham demonstrated his readiness to carry out the act, he never heard from God again for the rest of his life.

    And no, I don't believe that the story was literally true, but it was written to show an understanding of God's nature, and I think that undrestanding was a lot more complicated and nuanced than fundamentalists would like to believe.

    "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

    by leevank on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 08:59:16 AM PDT

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    •  Of course I realise that. (0+ / 0-)

      The way I've always learnt it is that God was pleased that Abraham was ready to make such a sacrifice for him, but that was years ago and I doubt we delved very deep into the text, being third-graders and all. The other interpretation is very interesting and makes sense to me, so thanks for that.

      Okay, so does my point about Lot's daughters stand, or did God get pissed off about that, too?

      "...and it's here the lonely say that the heart has got to open in a fundamental way." --Leonard Cohen, "Democracy"

      by maralenenok on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 09:28:44 AM PDT

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      •  Unclear to me, but what IS clear about that ... (0+ / 0-)

        story is that it's not about homosexuality, as generally interpreted by the fundies.  It's about hostility (to the point of gang rape) to  outsiders.  Actually, the Bible has a lot to say about the duty to outsiders in one's society, which all of the good "Christians" such as Tom Tancredo seem to have missed.

        "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." -Ben Franklin

        by leevank on Mon Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:19 AM PDT

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