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  •  Not so. You're forgetting that the EEC rather (1+ / 0-)
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    rapidly transitioned to open borders and free movement of labor.

    Core EU had similar social protections, labor regulations, tax regimes.

    Mexico and the US? Not exactly.

    In any event, NAFTA wasn't sold that way.

    Freedom is merely privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all -9.50, -5.74

    by redstar on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 11:47:27 AM PDT

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    •  Note what you say... (0+ / 0-)

      The EEC transitioned...

      That mean's it wasn't part of the original intention.  And even still, the EU does not have identical social protections, labor regulations or tax regimes.  They vary widely between the member states and have done so.  There has been some attempt at harmonization, but it is not complete or total.  But that still has come after all countries have become richer and more equally so.

      •  They don't vary all that wildly among the EU-15 (1+ / 0-)
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        with the exception of the odd duck country which insisted on the social opt-out, which is still much closer to the mean EU-15 than Mexico is to the US.

        Many of the new entrants, like Poland (chosen for size), on the fact of things look as disparate from the EU as Mexico to the US, but then, you have to consider income inequalities too, with for instance Mexico having a significantly higher gini coefficient than Poland or the other new entrants. Income inequality is an indicator of abject poverty and precariousness of existence, which feeds emigration as sure as anything.

        Freedom is merely privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all -9.50, -5.74

        by redstar on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 01:04:09 PM PDT

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        •  You're telling me that policies between the EU-15 (0+ / 0-)

          don't vary widely?  Britain and Sweden are in sync? Ireland and France/Germany?  What, on some smaller policies yes they are, but on lots of the big issues, they still vary wildly enough that there is a difference...

          And with the EU-15, when Portugal joined in 1986, they were at around 54% of the average EU country then.  Greece was pretty out of whack to when they joined a few years earlier...

          •  The UK and Sweden are far more in synch, (0+ / 0-)

            as regards income distribution, social programs and fiscal policy, than Mexico is with the US.

            That's a no-brainer.

            Ditto Greece, Portugal, Spain viz France, Italy, Germany and Benelux in the '80's.

            Keep channelling Friedman though, it's fun to see Dems admit to it.

            Freedom is merely privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all -9.50, -5.74

            by redstar on Wed Jun 13, 2007 at 05:45:56 PM PDT

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