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    marykk

    I will say I don't think it diminishes the value of the woman's life. The charge against the criminal for killing her isn't  weakened at all, there's just another chrage with it. Is the life of a murdered kidnapping victim diminished when the crook is charged with kidnapping in addition to the murder?

    I believe the above, I don't necessarily believe this next statement, but it occured to me so I will put it out there devil's advocate style - one could argue (I don't) that the attention on pregnancy doesn't lessen a woman's value, it raises it. She is a bearer of life, she is what propels humanity and sustains us, let us honor her for it and give that gift special attention.

    •  But doesn't that raise a dangerous (4+ / 0-)

      converse?  That being: once she is not pregnant, she is a little less special.  Or, how about women who never get pregnant?  Or infertile women who can't become pregnant?  Do they have less value in society?  I think not.  

      •  It depends on what society wants her for (0+ / 0-)

        As in the comment I quoted below.

        Some people have their hearts in the right place, but don't have two brain cells to rub together without setting their heads on fire.

        The TEA Fund: Practicing random acts of kindness

        by moiv on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 05:47:34 PM PDT

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    •  Sounds like Gordon Howie (2+ / 0-)
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      TeresaInPa, Readrock

      the South Dakota rancher and legislator who compared women to breeding stock to support a ban on abortion.

      "We place value on life in South Dakota, and even with a mother cow, as soon as you can demonstrate she is pregnant, an even higher value is placed just because she is pregnant."

      The TEA Fund: Practicing random acts of kindness

      by moiv on Sun Jun 24, 2007 at 05:45:15 PM PDT

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      •  What about the incest comment from Louisiana (2+ / 0-)
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        legislator, "What is wrong with incest?  That is how we get get super fast race horses."

        This was in the early 90's when they tried to outlaw abortion without the rape and incest exception.

        I was on the floor lobbying on behalf of the League of Women Voters when this statement was made...so I was there...this guy actually went to the mike and said this...

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