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    Sentido

    Kennedy voted against the 86 bill that was pushed by the Reagan administration, so i dont kno what you are talking about.

    Again, i dare you to suggest Kennedy supports slavery.

    You never even read the bill, but because the AFL-CIO tell you the guest worker is slavery, you beleive them.

    Do you know that UNITE-HERE and SEIU supports this bill??...Why, because they clealry understand this is it...If this bill falters,it won't come back for the next 10-20 years and what will happen next is mass deportation.

    The AFL-CIO main aim is to knock out the legalization program, but they are doing so by hidding behind the guest worker program.....If this bill passes, it legalizes a lot of UNITE-HERE and SEIU workers and this could make those 2 unions stronger then the AFLI-CIO....This is why there is a huge war between the AFL-CIO and UNITE-HERE/SEIU.

    •  Kennedy's vote was a throw-away in 86..... (1+ / 0-)
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      lynmar

      The fix was in to push that amnesty bill thru for the same reasons they are pushing this bill.  The corporations want it.

    •  You have no idea what you're talking about (0+ / 0-)

      Your statement that the AFL-CIO opposes legalization is libelous.  The fact is that the AFL is standing up for all workers, both citizens and immigrants, by opposing a bad bill.  

      And really -- enough with the scaremongering.  "If this bill falters,it won't come back for the next 10-20 years and what will happen next is mass deportation?"  Horseshit.  If this fails, we get a better bill in January 2009.  If this succeeds, we're stuck with a godawful cheap-labor guest worker plan for 20 years.

      Well said! Thanks, UserName! n/t

      by Jake McIntyre on Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 03:33:38 PM PDT

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      •  This is Maria19Rodriguez (2+ / 0-)
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        BobOak, philimus

        Aka BlueStateLiberal, aka sopranoitalia, aka immigrant2008, aka God only knows who else, who has spent over a year here calling everyone who had the temarity to disagree with her on the subject of illegal immigration 'racist scumbags' or variations thereof.

        The scaremongering and the "you're an idiot if you disagree with me", "you're a Lou Dobbs Democrat if you disagree with me", "you need to join the Republican Party if you disagree with me", etc., is just par for the course.

        <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

        by superscalar on Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 03:46:38 PM PDT

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      •  I wonder if the AFL CIO (0+ / 0-)

        is the one who has been pushing the idea of waiting till February 2009. If the bill were worse or the same in February 2009, would people then say wait till the year 2011. Sununu in Maine, and Allard in Colorado are the only places where a Democratic defeat of a Republican will change the vote to a pro-immigrant stance. Smith, Collins, Coleman, Domenici, Warner, Stevens, Hagel could all lose to a Democrat, but the pro-immigrant vote will not increase, because Smith, Collins, Coleman, Domenici, Warner, Stevens, Hagel all vote pro-immigrant. Check the votes from last year if you'd like. The time is now. Nativist groups will attack a future Democratic president as an "Amnesty President". They will say this over and over. This will hurt a future Democratic president in other issues.I'd much prefer to do this now with Bush as political cover.
        The laws and postions of a temporary worker program will be fought over, and over, and over again. The laws will change over this program constantly. I don't believe we should quibble over a program that could be altered in as few as 5 years.

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