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  •  Woops... (11+ / 0-)

    I forgot to make the first comment to declare, I am interested in a dialogue concerning this post... so here it is and I am interested... OK lets go.

    -- Hakim Abdullah | Chief Editor

    by Hakim Abdullah on Wed Jul 11, 2007 at 07:57:18 AM PDT

    •  vert very simplistically is it not basically (2+ / 0-)
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      true that the 'West', particularly the United States, has the concept of the separation of church and state enshrined in our understanding of the role of both religion and politics in our system of government.

      Whereas Islam and Islamists globally have the concept of religion as the basis of politics, therefore it is religion that dictates governmental policies especially in terms of rights for minority Islamic sects, women  and other religious groups.  In other words it is Islam that dictates the laws, which basically is 'sharia' (religious)law, and not civil or secular law.

      Please correct me if I am wrong, because obviously that is a vastly over-simplified understanding, and I understand that some Islamic nations, such as Turkey, demand secularism as the basis of their government.

      I applaud your attempts to help us understand the basic concepts of Islam as it has evolved since the 7th century.

      •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

        Turkey in an anomoly, it went through an extremely traumatic period in order to establish secularism, really people we traumatized by Kemalism.

        "Please correct me if I am wrong, because obviously that is a vastly over-simplified understanding, and I understand that some Islamic nations, such as Turkey, demand secularism as the basis of their government."

        The majority of Turkey's citizens want Islam back in some form and that is not apologist talk, nor marginalized opinion. That is mainstream opinion they have voted for Islamic parties several times in Turkish elections.

        -- Hakim Abdullah | Chief Editor

        by Hakim Abdullah on Wed Jul 11, 2007 at 09:38:28 AM PDT

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        •  my understanding was that recently (1+ / 0-)
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          they rejected the Turkish leader's attempt to nominate a member of the Islamist groups as his successor?  Women have also rejected efforts to force them to wear head scarves or the veil?

          What is your proof that the mainstream opinion prefers an Islamic state to a secular state? do you have references for books or articles you can cite so i may further explore Turkey's role in modern Islam.

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