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  •  So what are Muslim lands? (0+ / 0-)

    Isn't that one of the rantings of Bin Laden? That certain Muslim lands, notably Spain, are in the hands of the infidels?

    After all, at the time Mohammed received the word from god, there really weren't Muslim lands.

    "No his mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Always hopeful yet discontent, he knows changes aren't permanent. But change is." -Neil Peart

    by Boisepoet on Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 01:12:48 PM PDT

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      So what are Muslim lands?

      Do you believe in majority rule? Start there. For example wasn't Apartheid in South Africa unjust? Those of European origin, the minority ruled the indigenous African Majority. There is something wrong with that no?

      Isn't that one of the rantings of Bin Laden? That certain Muslim lands, notably Spain, are in the hands of the infidels?

      I don't know what bin laden has said... I have never heard one of his speeches, but how is Spain a Muslim land? The Muslims were expelled long ago.

      After all, at the time Mohammed received the word from god, there really weren't Muslim lands.

      This is moot point now not significant.

      •  Isn't according to the Quoran, all lands are (0+ / 0-)

        Muslim, because they belong to Allah and are thus for the true believers?

        I certainly don't remember reading anything about majority rule in the Quoran. That would be a modern non-Quoronic concept wouldn't it?

        And if that is acceptable, why wouldn't secular based rule be so. Especially if as a Muslim living in the US you do not feel like you are going against Allah, do you?

        "No his mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Always hopeful yet discontent, he knows changes aren't permanent. But change is." -Neil Peart

        by Boisepoet on Thu Jul 12, 2007 at 01:42:56 PM PDT

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        •  hmm... (0+ / 0-)

          Muslim, because they belong to Allah and are thus for the true believers?

          Why would you say that? What makes you say something like that? Did you read the quran and interpreted that or did you just come up with it from your mind.

          "And if that is acceptable, why wouldn't secular based rule be so.

          This is why I said earlier...

          Now, with that said, we must keep in mind that there is a fundamental difference between a Muslim country and a non-Muslim country, this must be understood.

          Sorry I must go now... if you post a few more questions I will address them this evening... its family time now. May God bless you.

          •  Still waiting for the 'fundamental' difference (1+ / 0-)
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            between Muslims and non-Muslims that make them more compassionate, civil and needing to live under a government that is different than non-Muslims.

            Especially intriguing since the actual practice of Islam is so different in comparison to the theoretical that you posit here.

            "No his mind is not for rent, to any god or government. Always hopeful yet discontent, he knows changes aren't permanent. But change is." -Neil Peart

            by Boisepoet on Fri Jul 13, 2007 at 10:18:19 AM PDT

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        •  lots of muslims (2+ / 0-)
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          are against sharia, I've heard them say it.  the idea that all muslims have to by nature want something as horribly illiberal as sharia is just hakim's attempt to railroad other opinions and make the conversation fatalist.

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