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  •  the DP is WWRONG (3+ / 0-)
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    Why do we still allow our government to kill these people? The Death Penalty is wrong even if the person is guilty. The Death Penalty is not the best punishment for these criminals. Those who favor the Death Penalty say that they deserve the "worst" possible punishment, but isn't killing them letting them off easy. Don't they deserve to rot in Prison for the rest of their lonely depressing lives? Hell Yea! Plus, there have probably been DOZENS of innocent people killed, and it's OUR fault (we pay for it with our tax dollars. Not only is the blood on the governments hands, but it is also on our hands. So please everyone while contacting the Georgia State parole board to stop the murdering of this innocent man tell them to stop murdering all the rest of them.

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    by NateW on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:30:45 PM PDT

    •  because (1+ / 0-)
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      Why do we still allow our government to kill these people?

      Because most Americans believe it is a just punishment. That's why.

      SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

      by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:35:19 PM PDT

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      •  JUST? (2+ / 0-)
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        Most Americans. Well most American's also thought Dubya would make a good president (the second time around; the first we kinda got screwed). There is no way that letting our government murder people is just.

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        by NateW on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:38:59 PM PDT

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      •  At the time... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...before Brown v. Board of Education, most Americans thought segregation was a good idea, too.

        The majority is often wrong.

        •  doesn't mean they are (0+ / 0-)

          always wrong.

          Certainly right in this case.

          SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

          by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:45:01 PM PDT

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          •  Wow, you're dense (1+ / 0-)
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            Take this case to court:

            You have a man accused of a murder. There are nine people from whom the police collected statements indicating he did it. Seven of the witnesses claim they were lying; some of them say the police harassed and threatened them, and that's the only reason they say the man is guilty. Of the remaining two, one was overheard admitting he is the one who actually committed the crime.

            Can you in good conscience say you'd feel good about getting the accused executed?

            I guess you can. That says something about your personal character -- and it's not good.

            •  I didn't mean this particular case (0+ / 0-)

              So don't make it personal because I didn't.

              I meant in the case of the "Capital Punishment" in general.

              Anyways I am tired of talking to you. Personal attacks is all you understand.

              SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

              by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 01:51:43 PM PDT

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              •  Then you're a fool (1+ / 0-)
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                Because this diary is all about this particular case.

                Come back when your reading comprehension improves.

                •  and you are an idiot (0+ / 0-)

                  since you couldn't follow a simple diversion where we moved off this particular case and into general issues commanding majoritarian support.

                  SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

                  by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:29:59 PM PDT

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                  •  Nope (0+ / 0-)

                    As far as idiocy goes, it's still your exclusive domain here. I'm not the one who's ok with killing someone without evidence of guilt.

                    •  what are you talking about? (1+ / 0-)
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                      This guy has been convicted and has appealed for 20 years. He was not convicted over nothing. No one is required to keep proving his guilt to you forever and ever.

                      SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

                      by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:45:26 PM PDT

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                      •  And how is he supposed to prove his innocence? (0+ / 0-)

                        Should he need to have the prosecution's case fall apart? Done.

                        Should the witnesses against him recant? Done.

                        Should the witnesses who recanted indicate prosecutorial misconduct? Done.

                        Should the witnesses who recanted indicate that one of the witnesses who didn't recant is the actual killer? Done.

                        Should there be absolutely no physical evidence to connect the condemned to the murder? Done.

                        Should someone have to prove guilt forever and ever? No -- provided that the evidence stands up to scrutiny. In this case, it doesn't. And yet you still want to kill this guy. That's what I've been talking about the entire diary. If you can't grasp that very simple concept, then follow through on what you said you were going to do before and stop arguing with me.

                        •  whose scrutiny are we talking about? (0+ / 0-)

                          Your scrutiny? That is laughable.

                          It's entirely possible that after all these years some witnesses don't want to have man's death on their hands, they might've changed their position on the DP, they might be lying to save his ass. Why did all of them lie during the trial and appeals?

                          This is absurd. Also not all the witnesses recanted. And conviction for any case does not require physical evidence. There are other ways to show someone guilty so that is a worthless point.

                          I don't want to kill this guy. I just don't care because the process has run through. The parole board will decide and I will agree with whatever they decide. They have all the evidence before them.

                          SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

                          by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:54:02 PM PDT

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                •  heh (0+ / 0-)

                  NateW:

                  Why do we still allow our government to kill these people? The Death Penalty is wrong even if the person is guilty.

                  EnderRS:

                  Because most Americans believe it is a just punishment. That's why.

                  Wiscmass:

                  ...before Brown v. Board of Education, most Americans thought segregation was a good idea, too.

                  The majority is often wrong.

                  EnderRS:

                  doesn't mean they are always wrong.

                  Certainly right in this case.

                  Who do you think I meant and in what case? Majority doesn't even apply to this damn specific case. Learn to read yourself.

                  SwordsCrossed "To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

                  by EnderRS on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 03:34:00 PM PDT

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