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  •  it was just (1+ / 0-)
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    was just kind of curious that she would dress like a dime store vegas hooker considering the circumstances.  People are gonna talk, those two are now the butt of every conversation when they enter or leave a room.

    Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

    by pissedpatriot on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 06:30:48 PM PDT

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    •  Of fuck that. What the fuck is this dime (4+ / 0-)
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      store hooker puritanical fucking bullshit? I can't believe this. This really is hypocritical and it belongs in the ditch where "She deserved to get raped - look at that dress" bullshit.

      I know that that is not consciously being thought here, but the slope to that ditch is proving it ain't just for RWers.

      •  I am a guy (4+ / 0-)
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        I'm a guy, and even I take time to dress appropriate for important meetings, occassions, etc,  to act as if what we wear has no meaning is kind of silly.  

        I am a tee shirt jeans man, but even I understand clothing is important and carries meaning at certain times.

        Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

        by pissedpatriot on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 06:41:55 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think that answers my qestion (1+ / 0-)
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          if she had come out looking like the wife on "Married with Children" it wouldn't have made a bit of difference to me. (I just literally paused and was speechless for several seconds - i can't believe this even needs to be explained.)

          Does the possibility that she just has a weird, or maybe "absent," or just different sense of  fashion mean nothing? I actually admire  people like that.

          And did you see the video? Nothing in it jumped out as that bizarre. I didn't notice anything about her clothes until it became an issue later.

          •  How could you not notice her clothes (2+ / 0-)
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            As a politician's wife, the uniform is pastel suit, flag lapel pin, small gold/pearl earrings, tasteful necklace, nice pumps.  Anything outside of that will be noticed.  

            I've never seen Mrs. Vitter before, but I was taken aback at what she was wearing, not because my fashion senses were offended (and great googamooga, they were), but because she knew that she was going to a press conference about her husband's infidelities and still choose to dress like this.  

            Clothes do send a message, no matter what the situation is and the message she seemed to be sending was, "I've been shamed, fuck you."  As someone mentioned above, if she came out in a dowdy suit, look older than her years, then yeah, people would think, "No wonder he was steppin' out on her."  This was signal to women that says, "He stepped out this?"  The chats on my mommy boards about this, especially with the women whose husband's have cheated on them, were largely in support of Mrs. Vitter because of the dress.  

            •  I agree with you and personally (0+ / 0-)

              I would have come out in a sexy/sophisticated power suit with a splash of spice for a show of strength and confidence.

              But that's just me.

              Anyone wanna go shopping with me?

              We have no future because our present is too volatile. We only have risk management. The spinning of the given moments scenario. Pattern Recognition. ~W. Gibson

              by Silent Lurker on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 08:03:29 PM PDT

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              •  I would have come out (5+ / 0-)

                Looking like a million bucks AND at the end of my speech, I would have announced my upcoming divorce from the creepin' SOB.  

                •  you bring up an interesting point. (0+ / 0-)

                  If it was just one time, I don't know if I would forgive my husband or not.
                  It was with prostitues (more than one, taking money away from supporting the household) and a repeating habit. I would have to divorce as well.

                  We have no future because our present is too volatile. We only have risk management. The spinning of the given moments scenario. Pattern Recognition. ~W. Gibson

                  by Silent Lurker on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 08:21:49 PM PDT

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                  •  I can't abide cheating (0+ / 0-)

                    My friends tell me that if my husband cheated on me, that I'd probably forgive him.  I know me.  Not only does a person get one chance to so utter disloyaty, but I can hold a grudge AND I'm vengeful.  Cheating?  I'd have his shit out on the front yard in heartbeat.  Prostitutes?  I'd shame him so bad, he'd have to move to another country under an assumed name.

                    But you have to understand that even with my friends, if I find out that they are cheating on their SOs, I usually end the friendship.  I'm zero tolerance when it comes to stuff like that.

                    •  once (0+ / 0-)

                      once trust is lost in a relationship, that relationship is lost. You can go on and put on a show and/or put up with it, but trust is THE MOST important thing in any relationship.

                      Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

                      by pissedpatriot on Wed Jul 18, 2007 at 10:20:34 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks for fighting the good fight, Little -- (1+ / 0-)
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        I appreciate you sticking up for me; I wish other people saw a greater distinction between one's actions  (voting record, public comments, etc.) and one's persona (hairstyle, clothing).  I also wish folks would see that the mainstream media blurs that distinction much more with women than with me.  I've heard Olbermann call Dubya many things, but not, for example "frumpy".

        You're one of the few folks in here tonight who can separate the principle from the partisanship, and I appreciate that.  But you sound like you're getting really worked up about this, and I hate to see an ally so stressed out.  Would it help to take a break?
         

        •  It is a bit more frustrating than it should be (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm off for a drink - cheers to you - and all.

        •  Don't see it (0+ / 0-)

          They talk about Pelosi's scarves, and Hillary's hairstyles, but they also talk(ed) about Edward's hair, Paul Simon's bowtie, Abe Lincoln's beard, etc. Some people dress in a particular or unusual way, and others notice this. Where's the sexism?

          •  Good examples -- may I rebut? (0+ / 0-)

            I've never heard of anyone talking about Paul Simon's "see-through come-hither bowtie that makes him look like he's just asking for it."  His bowtie, and Lincoln's beard were both noticed without ascribing sexual connotations to their choice of dress and grooming.  

            The folks criticizing Edwards's hair were specifically trying to emasculate him; they also referred to him as a "Breck Girl".  You don't find that sexist?

            •  an example was (0+ / 0-)

              tucker's boetie. He was mocked about it unmercifully and now he no longer wears it.

              We have no future because our present is too volatile. We only have risk management. The spinning of the given moments scenario. Pattern Recognition. ~W. Gibson

              by Silent Lurker on Tue Jul 17, 2007 at 08:06:12 PM PDT

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