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  •  And it's why Levin-Reed doesn't worry me (20+ / 0-)

    The Senate is the tougher hurdle for ending the war.  If we can get an imperfect but strong Levin-Reed through the Senate, and the House comes in with something even stronger, then the conference report can be a good compromise for ending the war.

    Reid's putting off the Defense Authorization bill until September raises the stakes considerably for either a filibuster or a veto.  With support for the war party crumbling by the day, a stall leading to a stronger bill works entirely in our favor.

    Just when you think they can't get any worse, you're not surprised to learn you were wrong.

    by Dallasdoc on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 04:44:59 PM PDT

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    •  Good point about C report. (1+ / 0-)
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      it isn't a stall of the Defense Authorization bill it really a head fake. The bill itself is not due until October so it will get passed in plenty of time.

      He is holding it up in order to hold up more Repub amendments. I don't know if that is a good idea or not. It the Repub amendments would not pass anyway why hold them up? In the end we need bipartisan support in the Senate to get anything through. So to piss off the Repubs in not letting them present amendments is not exactly building bridges.

      All the Dems this time around voted for Levin-Reed. So if they held their ground then there is no way the Repub amendments could pass. So I don't get what Reid is up to. I think he is being a bit too strong on this one.

      "You Have The Power!" - Howard Dean

      by talex on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 06:46:40 PM PDT

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    •  I hope you're right. But while ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...more and more Democrats seem to be on board, the only way what these 70 are saying will work - and kudos to them for it - is if they can collect another 148 votes. I'm still unconvinced - but not giving up - that we can get 218 to say no more funding for the occupation/war. I'll happily do mea culpas if I am wrong.

      •  It moves the Overton window (3+ / 0-)
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        I think this announcement is tactical.  It includes most of the progressive caucus, with a few interesting additions, so it is the boundary of debate in the House.  The Republicans and Blue Dogs would not allow it to pass the House, but if we don't start negotiations with a strong statement like this, we're ceding ground before the horse trading begins.

        It also lances the festering wound that is the fear of the "Defeatocrat" label.  This letter tells Republicans that their swiftboating efforts won't intimidate Democrats.  Laughing at a bully goes a long way toward disarming him, especially when you've got a lot more supporters behind you.

        This debate will take place after the August recess, and I think Democrats are counting on their Republican colleagues getting an earful while they're home begging and posturing.  By the time they get back, Petraeus' report may be all but irrelevant.

        Just when you think they can't get any worse, you're not surprised to learn you were wrong.

        by Dallasdoc on Thu Jul 19, 2007 at 07:10:50 PM PDT

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